Schwarzenegger: McClintock a Pawn of Pro-Bustamante Indians

NewsMax ^ | Spet. 19, 2003 | Carl Limbacher

[FairOpinion]

American Indians who are supporting Democrat front-runner Cruz Bustamante in California are also promoting Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock, and GOP front-runner Arnold Schwarzenegger is furious.

"I think that as far as Tom McClintock is concerned, I think the question I have for him is, what side is he on?" Schwarzenegger said Thursday. "Is he on the side of the Republicans? Does he represent the Republicans, or does he represent Bustamante?"

Schwarzenegger suggested that the tribes were abetting Bustamante by trying to split the Republican vote.

"They are financing his commercials and TV spots and all that," said Schwarzenegger, who doesn't take money from Indian tribes. "He knows they're financing him not because they want him to be governor. They just want to interfere with the process so that Bustamante wins. He has to decide which side is he on, the Republicans' or Bustamante's."

McClintock called Schwarzenegger's comments "a ridiculous statement by a man who obviously hasn't paid much attention to California public affairs. ... For 20 years, I have fought to protect sovereignty on reservation lands, well before there was gaming.

"If they wanted to hurt Schwarzenegger, they would be making an independent expenditure to hurt Schwarzenegger, and Lord knows there's plenty they could hurt him with."

Assemblyman John Benoit, R-Palm Desert, a Schwarzenegger supporter, told the Riverside Press-Enterprise: "I think the idea of divide and conquer is a tried and true tactic. I can't speak for the Indians, but if there was somebody looking to help Bustamante, this would be the way to do it."

[Reagan Man]

Pure sophistry.

Actually, I think the Schwarzenegger campaign is getting desperate. After all, they've recieved $8,000,000 in political donations and are barely ahead of Tom McClintock, who has rasied $900,000 and has made significant strides in the last month. Arnold is holding steady in the mid-20% range.

And does anyone really believe that some of Arnold's $8,000,000 in political donations didn't come from special interests and influence peddlers? Think again.

[Reagan Man]

>>>Tom is a very popular State Senator and will be able to run CA as Gov and yes he thinks he can win... or another race if not since he is a leader and has the CA Repub Assembly grassroots with him 100%. ;^)

Ronald Reagan called the CRA:
"The conscience of the Republican Party".

[fabian]

Reagan was pro "choice" in 1966 as is Arnold. I know it is wrong, but perhaps he will change about this someday as Reagan did.

[BenLurkin]

bump

[kingu]

"Dear Mr. Reagan, it should be obvious to you now that you can never be elected governor. Please put aside your ego, for the good of our party, and get behind the one man who is moderate enough to appeal to California voters - - San Francisco Mayor George Christopher."

Look Magazine 1966

Hmm... Reagan, a movie star, a Hollywood 'power broker', head of what was then a rather powerful union in California, with many monied supporters compared to Tom McClintock who has few major supporters, most of whom aren't putting up big cash, who has been a career politician, on the public dole since the age of 19...

You'll have to excuse me for not finding the comparison to be valid.

[Hoverbug]

Exactly what several of us have been posting all along!

That fact didn't escape notice.

Hb

[Reagan Man]

>>>Reagan was pro "choice" in 1966 as is Arnold.

That's a bold face lie! I wish you'd stop all the sophistry.

The term pro-choice didn't even exist in 1966 and besides, abortion was still against the law. What Reagan did say was the following:

"It was a subject I'd never given much thought to and one upon which I didn't really have an opinion."
From: Reagan In His Own Hand

Reagan went onto say, he did extensive research on abortion and "soul searching" and concluded that abortion was the taking of a human life. Its Reagan's post Roe v Wade posiiton that counts today.

Don't believe me, read Abortion and The Conscience of a Nation", an essay by President Ronald Reagan.

The final paragraph says:

"Abraham Lincoln recognized that we could not survive as a free land when some men could decide that others were not fit to be free and should therefore be slaves. Likewise, we cannot survive as a free nation when some men decide that others are not fit to live and should be abandoned to abortion or infanticide. My Administration is dedicated to the preservation of America as a free land, and there is no cause more important for preserving that freedom than affirming the transcendent right to life of all human beings, the right without which no other rights have any meaning."

[Roscoe]

Arnold hate conservatives AND the California Republican Party. The idiot.

CALIFORNIA STATE REPUBLICAN PARTY OVERWHELMINGLY ENDORSES PROP 1A - THE INDIAN SELF RELIANCE AMENDMENT

[fabian]

I apologize for repeating what I had read about Reagan being pro "choice" in 1966 without checking it out for myself. I do think that Arnold may be open to change on some of his misguided beliefs.

[strela]

It's right on the money.

You said it. And just look at who ELSE got a big payday from the Morongo Indians:

From Steve Wampler's column of October 29, 2002:

"During the 1998 election, the Morongo Indians were part of a political action committee that donated more than $500,000 to (Gray) Davis. In 2000-01, the Morongo Indians added $170,000 more. In April 2000, Davis released a transportation-congestion relief plan that gave him more control over state projects. One of the projects in the plan was a $30 million freeway interchange that leads directly to the Morongo Indians' casino. As GOP state Sen. Ray Haynes puts it: "(Davis) says it's congestion relief, but it's more like contributor relief. It always helps to be a contributor to Gray Davis, and Gray Davis makes it well-known."

Looks like Tom McClintock has taken a page out of Ol' Grayout's own book when it comes to fundraising. Some mean-spirited folks might even call it "sloppy seconds".

The question just begs to be asked - what promises has McClintock made to the Morongo tribe for their financial support? They've already got the freeway off ramp they wanted - what other bells and whistles might they find under their Christmas tree in a McClintock administration?

[Roscoe]

BURLINGAME, CA., February 6, 2000 -- The California Republican Party, at its state convention in Burlingame on Sunday, voted to support Proposition 1A - the Indian Self-Reliance Amendment. With more than 600 delegates in attendance, the membership voted overwhelming to endorse the ballot measure that will protect Indian gaming on Indian lands.

Arnold AND his groupies hate the CRP.

[strela]

Arnold AND his groupies hate the CRP.

As usual for you, a statement with no proof to back it up. Questioning why Tom McClintock is wearing Gray Davis' old hand-me-downs when it comes to fundraising is not "hatred of Indians."

[djreece]

Thank you, Reagan Man, for calling him on that defamation of your namesake.

Since the Reagan name gets thrown around so much in these threads, here are a few excerpts of Reagan describing the 1966 gubernatorial campaign from http://www.ronaldreagan.com -- if only Arnold were able to follow Reagan's example on overcoming the "dumb actor" criticism.

"THE CAMPAIGN
The 1964 Presidential Election, as historians and journalists have amply recorded, was a disaster for our party. Not only was Goldwater swamped under a Lyndon Johnson landslide, the party came out of the election bitterly divided because of a vicious primary battle between Goldwater and Nelson Rockefeller. A lot of liberal Republicans simply refused to support Goldwater against Johnson. The split was especially deep in California, where moderate and conservative factions of the party had already been feuding for years.

. . .

"I won the chance to run against Brown after a Republican primary campaign that was very bitter at times, largely because of the lingering split between conservatives and moderates in the state party. My principal opponent in the primary was George Christopher, a former mayor of San Francisco who tried simultaneously to portray me as a right-wing extremist and attack me because I'd admitted having been in Communist front groups - without mentioning that I'd resigned and declared war on them as soon as I'd realized what they were.

"The personal attacks against me during the primary finally became so heavy that the state Republican chairman, Gaylord Parkinson, postulated what he called the Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. It's a rule I followed during that campaign and have ever since.

. . .

"One of Brown's favorite ploys was to say, 'Reagan is only an actor who memorizes speeches written by other people, just like he memorized the lines that were fed to him by his screenwriters in the movies. Sure, he makes a good speech, but who's writing his speeches?' Well, I was writing my speeches. But I couldn't get up and say to an audience, 'Hey, I write my own speeches.'

"We called a meeting and I said: 'From now on, why don't I just say a few words to whatever group I'm with, no matter how big it is, and then just open it up to questions and answers? People might think somebody had written my opening remarks for me, but they'll know it would be impossible for somebody to feed me answers to questions I didn't know about in advance.' Well, it worked like a charm. From then on, whether the campaign audience was three or three thousand, I'd make a few remarks, then take questions. I hadn't planned it that way, but this turned out to be a wonderful way to learn about the issues that were on people's minds."

[Roscoe]

In fact, the California Republican Party donated over $50,000 to support Indian gaming. No surprise to see Arnold pissing on the party again.

[strela]

Again, a fact- and proof-free post from you. You make this too easy.

[Roscoe]

Again, a fact- and proof-free post from you.

As long as you ignore the quotes, links and sources. Shut your eyes tight.

[strela]

I am still puzzled why you continue to evade any comment whatever on Tom "Mini Gray" McClintock's questionable sources of campaign funding.

[Roscoe]

Prop 1A
California Republican Party
$56,240

http://www.calvoter.org/2000/primary/propositions/topten.html

Facts vs. sourceless spinning.

[strela]

How does that link answer my question? "I am still puzzled why you continue to evade any comment whatever on Tom "Mini Gray" McClintock's questionable sources of campaign funding".

[Roscoe]

The Morongo tribe supports the CRP and has appeared at a number of CRP conventions. The CRP supports Indian sovereignty and tribal gambling by endorsement and with financial support.

Trust Arnold and his groupies to be ignorant of that.