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To: Travis McGee
The "fair use" battle of using copyright material here in entiretly has been fought and lost Travis. My recommendation to FR management would be to demand excerpt and linking to EVERY piece of copyright material posted here.

FR is in the wrong here. Always has been. I press the link on EVERY article posted here that I read, give the source a viewing hit, just on principle.

It's a private property issue for me. Conservative stuff.

289 posted on 09/20/2003 9:13:15 AM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
It wasn't lost it was settled in the hallway with the suers. There's a world of difference. Fair use is still alive and well, and gee golly, if other web sites can't use the Onion's parodies and satires for the purpose of review and parotty of the parody. The FIRST is not dead yet, Arnie McFufkin.

What Jim Robinson sets his policy to is his to set. But the extraction of articles -- even in full extract -- for such purposes is not totally banned withing the US. IP is metatasically tyrannical in nature.

295 posted on 09/20/2003 10:32:32 AM PDT by bvw (We're not done the war on terror until WE hold every oilfield and every strategic canal and harbor.)
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To: ArneFufkin
My recommendation to FR management would be to demand excerpt and linking to EVERY piece of copyright material posted here.

I disagree. Some publications and authors love their stuff being posted here. I suggest Jim keep doing what he does. If someone doesn't want their stuff posted in full, they can notify Jim and the appropriate measures can be taken to meet their request.

306 posted on 09/20/2003 1:33:07 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: ArneFufkin
BTW - I should change that to "most publications and authors". Out of the hundreds of different venues from which we pull information, only a half dozen have complained.

Pretty good batting average if you ask me.

307 posted on 09/20/2003 1:34:57 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: ArneFufkin
One more ---> During our interactions with conservative authors and publications at CPAC and RadioFR over the years, and besides those that have stated they love their stuff being posted here, I have had maybe a dozen go further and state they use the Forum as a means to tighten up their writing. Some said use it as a "trial balloon" prior to actually publishing.
308 posted on 09/20/2003 1:41:11 PM PDT by Bob J
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