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Reverend Kenneth Hagin, Sr. Dies
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Posted on 09/19/2003 11:49:02 AM PDT by chance33_98

Reverend Kenneth Hagin, Sr. Dies

Friday September 19, 2003 9:56am Posted By: Kevin King

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Tulsa - The founder of Rhema Bible Training Center has died. The Reverend Kenneth Hagin passed away Friday morning at the age of 86.

Hagin had been hospitalized since Sunday after collapsing at his home.

Hagin was also the founder of Kenneth Hagin Ministries, which has touched more than 100 countries.

He was a native of McKinney, Texas and began preaching at age 17. In 1966, he moved to the Tulsa area, where he founded the Rhema Bible Training Center and Rhema Bible Church eight years later.

The Rhema Bible Training Center now has more than 23-thousand graduates and the church has more than eight thousand members.

Hagin also authored several books, including "The Ministry Gifts: Thirteen Lessons," "Growing Up Spiritually," and "Art of Prayer."

Hagin is survived by his wife, son and current Rhema Bible Church Pastor Kenneth Hagin, Jr., a daughter, Pat Harrison, as well as five grandchildren and eight great-grandchildren.

Funeral services will be announced at a later time.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: kennethhagin; obituary; pastor
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1 posted on 09/19/2003 11:49:02 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: drstevej
Fatality rate's still around 100%, isn't it, even among the name-it-and-claim-it set?

Dan
2 posted on 09/19/2003 11:50:23 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: BibChr
Depends on what you mean by 'Fatality' - physically or spiritually? :)
3 posted on 09/19/2003 11:53:11 AM PDT by chance33_98 (Knock Knock! Who's there? ATF/FBI Where is Elian?!)
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To: BibChr
i guess he just didn't have enought faith to see 90
4 posted on 09/19/2003 12:03:55 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: BibChr
i guess he just didn't have enought faith to see 90
5 posted on 09/19/2003 12:04:09 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: BibChr
i guess he just didn't have enought faith to see 90
6 posted on 09/19/2003 12:05:06 PM PDT by bethelgrad (for God, country, and the Corps OOH RAH!)
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To: bethelgrad
Hopefully we'll have enough faith to exorcise the reposting demon!
7 posted on 09/19/2003 12:11:02 PM PDT by exit82 (Ted Kennedy knows all about frauds--he is one.)
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To: BibChr
Fatality rate's still around 100%, isn't it, even among the name-it-and-claim-it set?

Darn, musta forgot about that little detail when asking for other goodies.

8 posted on 09/19/2003 12:13:09 PM PDT by No_Outcome_But_Victory (Have YOU named and claimed your Cadillac today?)
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To: exit82
LOL!
9 posted on 09/19/2003 12:13:24 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: BibChr
Last I checked, the salvation rate was 100% among those who accept Christ. Not much else matters, eh?
10 posted on 09/19/2003 12:16:20 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: BibChr
That was beneath you. I hope.
11 posted on 09/19/2003 12:20:15 PM PDT by Taliesan
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To: BibChr
"...the name-it-and-claim-it set?"
I never found him to be in that group. He certainly preached a message of faith and devotion while being a strong believer of Christ's healing hand. However, the " why ask for a Chevy when God wants you to have a Mercedes," wasn't part of the message.
12 posted on 09/19/2003 12:23:31 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: chance33_98
Obviously he was sinning because as he taught so strongly it is sin which cause disease and poor health.
13 posted on 09/19/2003 12:25:32 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Larry Lucido
Last I checked, the salvation rate was 100% among those who accept Christ. Not much else matters, eh?

Going only on that snippet of a statement, I would say that this attitude accounts for much of the disgraceful, wretched, inexcusable, God-dishonoring, fatheaded, un-Biblical malise and ill-health of the professing church of Christ.

"Salvation" is not an external fire-insurance policy that one obtains by checking a box and going on as one was.

Except a man be born again, he shall not see the kingdom of heaven. If (and only if) we continue in Jesus' words, we are genuinely His disciples, and know His freeing truth. If we love Him, we must keep His commandments. You've heard of those, I trust.

We are saved by grace alone, but make no mistake: we are SAVED by grace alone. Saved FROM, and saved TO.

If we're unchanged, we're unsaved.

Dan
Biblical Christianity web site

14 posted on 09/19/2003 12:28:45 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Taliesan
Hagin made a central tenet of his teaching the un-Biblical teaching that health, longetivity, well being etc... were directly related to faith and sin.

It was an ultimately cruel message that discarded those believers with physical afflictions and indicated there was something wrong with their faith or walk with God.

15 posted on 09/19/2003 12:29:14 PM PDT by tallhappy
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To: em2vn
He is the titular father of that group. Was.
16 posted on 09/19/2003 12:30:37 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: chance33_98
For what it's worth (you decide), an excerpt from Biblical Discernment Ministries, " Kenneth E. Hagin: General Teachings/Activities":
- Tongues-speaking charismatic Kenneth E. Hagin (born 1917) is known as the father of the "Word-Faith"/"Positive Confession" movement. (See endnote for a detailed description of the Hagin ministry empire.) In his The Word of Faith magazine, Hagin teaches the following heresies: Receiving healing, just as receiving salvation, is simply a matter of appropriating what already belongs to us (6/90); healing is included in the gospel (8/92); God does not afflict people with sickness and disease (12/90); he (Hagin) went to heaven and talked with his sister (6/91); Jesus appeared to him in a vision in 1950 (8/91); he once went to hell in an out-of-body experience (9/91); he does not believe in sickness and disease (7/92); it is always God's will to heal the sick (12/92); believers have a legal and redemptive right to divine healing (1/93). Hagin says: "Your confession of faith in God's Word will bring healing or whatever it is you need from God into the present tense and make it a reality in your life!" (12/92). (Reported in the 2/1/93, Calvary Contender.)

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- In an early-1990s edition of his magazine, The Word of Faith, Hagin clearly delineates his heresy of "positive confession." The article was entitled, "You Can Have What You Say":

This is not a slip of the tongue or some new doctrine. This is at the heart of the Positive Confession (PC) movement today, also known as the "name-it-and-claim-it" gospel. The Positive Confession movement is a charismatic form of Christian Science. This can be substantiated by simply comparing the similarities in their common beliefs. Positive Confession is basically warmed-over New Thought dressed in evangelical/charismatic language.
Again, I'm not passing judgment on Hagin or his critics. Just posting it for education.
17 posted on 09/19/2003 12:32:01 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. WORDS MEAN THINGS)
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To: tallhappy
Oddly, that's an old Jewish belief. A "blemished" person could not be a rabbi because their blemish was a sign of sin somewhere.
18 posted on 09/19/2003 12:32:55 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: BibChr
Aren't you glad you don't have to make that call.
19 posted on 09/19/2003 12:35:01 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: newgeezer
Name-It-Claim-It is the belief that God will give you anything IF you ask for it and IF you have enough faith. If you pray for a Mercedes and don't get it, you don't have enough faith. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat?
20 posted on 09/19/2003 12:35:19 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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