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Relatives of Slain Student Sue Western KY University in Bowling Green
Louisville, KY, Courier-Journal ^ | 09-19-03 | Pitsch, Mark

Posted on 09/19/2003 11:11:26 AM PDT by Theodore R.

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:46:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Melissa "Katie" Autry was attacked in her dormitory room at Western Kentucky University on May 4.

Relatives of a Western Kentucky University freshman who was set on fire in her dormitory room filed a lawsuit yesterday against the school and others, alleging negligence in her death.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: bowlinggreen; burning; collegesecurity; garyransdell; katieautry; murder; pkafraternity; ryanpayne; stephensoule; virginiawhite; wku
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1 posted on 09/19/2003 11:11:27 AM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.; joanie-f; snopercod
There is so much negligence to go around, unfortunately the family is not powerful enough to have the effect that I wish it could, in addition to its own negligence in raising the girl.

In general, also, the "authorities" are aligned against the family and the girl, because they are all about the business of furthering their authority --- including their defining what will be and will not be a right and exercise of self-defense.

The "permissive culture" that is championed at university, and by political forces which see in it, the anarchy with which more "useful idiots" are made raw recruits for "the cause," has continued unabated since the 1960's.

Young women especially are led to believe in their "space" which nobody has a right to transgress, in addition to their being led to believe that men especially must not be invited to assist in protecting that space, because that is "politically incorrect," while inviting men for any other purpose under the woman's control (in her mind, as she has been taught), is "empowering."

In other words, "the culture" at university that is the political agenda of "the left," encourages a woman's vulnerability while saying the opposite, that "women are empowered."

Katie Autry was empowered. She did not know what to do with all that em-power.

Because she actually did not have any such power.

Because she was purposely mis-informed by the "authorites" who claim a right to define her, and whom she allowed to define her, thanks to her up-bringing that did not discipline her enough to know what really is friend or foe.

She did not have the power to defend herself, because self-defense, according to the "authorities," is their business in fulfilling their duties to their political thought police state. Only they have the power to choose life and death, while they determine the manner in which the individual is permitted to fool themselves into thinking that they have 'free choice.'

To wit: Katie Autry died because she was caught in the headlights of The [formerly Democrat] Party campaign bus-full of lies.

2 posted on 09/19/2003 12:03:55 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: First_Salute
Very good analysis of this Bowling Green tragedy. Officials in higher education have a conscience, but "conscience is that small voice saying 'your funding may be jeopardized.'" That's from H.L. Mencken.
3 posted on 09/19/2003 12:15:27 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Perhaps the solution is for the students to start carrying arms.
4 posted on 09/19/2003 12:32:33 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: First_Salute
How right you are.

My dentist down in Florida, and his wife, lost a daughter by murder. I would never say it to them, but the real cause was the stupidity that you have described.

The daughter worked for a welfare agency and had discovered that one of her co-workers was embezzling millions. The co-worker discovered that the daughter knew, and called her. She asked to "talk this over" in a parking lot at 10PM.

The daughter, incredibly naive and unable to comprehend that evil actually exists, went unarmed and did not tell anybody where she was going or why.

The co-worker killed her in cold blood.

Does anybody remember my comments on the dumb "beach" who was run over by the tank in the Middle East? Kids today - growing up on TV where nothing bad ever happens to good people - just can't protect themselves.

5 posted on 09/19/2003 2:49:58 PM PDT by snopercod (And if it is a despot you would dethrone, see first that his throne erected within you is destroyed.)
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To: snopercod; Theodore R.; aimhigh; TPartyType; mommadooo3; brityank; joanie-f
Around a decade ago, a bad man went awry in Florida, around one of the large college campuses. He attacked, raped, and killed, by using a very large knife, 4 young women, college co-eds.

The "authorities" made all the usual statements about "whatever (lip service to socialism's goals)" while they in fact continued down the road of abusing the usual powers that "authorities" will, in order to strip the people of their rights to protect themselves, in the usual objective to regulate all life.

Controlling the populace; that's what politicians do; they call it "public service;" some bureaucrats are "brave" enough to call it, "to serve and to protect."

Like good subjects of socialism, most God-fearing people know that the bureaucrats are telling a lie yet put up with the lying because for the most part, more bad guys have been taken off the streets than good guys ... to date.

One day came when a young couple in love, she, the co-ed, he, her beau, awakened in each others' arms to hear somebody breaking into her apartment at the same university in Florida where all the trouble had been.

He, the beau, arose to investigate. At the front door, he arrived just in time to "greet" the attacker's success at breaking in the door.

They struggled.

The attacker cut the young lad badly; he lay on the floor bleeding to death and terribly.

She, the co-ed, arose with all the sense of alarm that nature can muster, and she approached her bedroom door.

Down the hallway, she could see past the attacker, the dying young man, her beau; his life bleeding out.

She bravely, suddenly, looked at the attacker, knowing him immediately to be the man who had attacked and killed four others.

She said to him, in firm, clear words, "Are you him?"

He said, "Yes."

Then he approached her and cut her down.

It was said that he did not rape her.

I have never forgetten this story.

The reason we know the details so well, about her and her boyfriend's end, is because the attacker told us. Her firmness with him, in that one moment, altered what raged inside him. Defenseless, she stood up to him. He will never forget her.

Me neither.

Because she managed to shed all of her teachers' ignorance and know danger, which is a gift of life, that the bad guy knew, and so do I, and so do you.

Yet it is a gift, as are other gifts of life, that "liberals" and "leftists" have made it their business to deny you, and so they deny Him.

Abortion is about taking innocent life. Denying people the right to defend themselves, is about taking innocent life.

"The left" is about taking innocent life. Abortion, and this young woman's death, and young Katie Autry's death, are the same thing, to "the left."

Taking innocent life, a piece at a time.

With a big knife.

6 posted on 09/19/2003 5:28:16 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: snopercod
No, they can't, because "the left" has managed to make their rights unclear, shifting with the political moment of what some judge says, no different than the time when that judge was king.
7 posted on 09/19/2003 5:30:12 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Theodore R.; snopercod; aimhigh; First_Salute
There's a lot more to this story. A lot more.


8 posted on 09/19/2003 5:59:45 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: All

Lucas B. Goodrum

9 posted on 09/19/2003 6:07:27 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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Stephen L. Soules

10 posted on 09/19/2003 6:09:25 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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11 posted on 09/19/2003 6:17:16 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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12 posted on 09/19/2003 6:18:45 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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13 posted on 09/19/2003 6:19:35 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Theodore R.
"It's not at all about the money,"

Has anyone ever heard this said when it was not a lie?

14 posted on 09/19/2003 6:22:25 PM PDT by per loin
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To: Theodore R.
If I verbalized what I feel about these cockroaches, I would get banned from FR.
No comment.
15 posted on 09/19/2003 6:23:45 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: All
Since the death penalty was reinstated in 1975, Kentucky has had all of 2 executions. No matter what the verdict and sentences, neither Goodrum nor Soules will face the needle.
16 posted on 09/19/2003 6:27:57 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Theodore R.
"She was in her dorm room, the place she considered home. She should've been protected."

She should have been armed, but I suspect that the school wouldn't allow that. A student's dorm is their castle, much like a person's home is their castle.

17 posted on 09/19/2003 6:29:00 PM PDT by meyer
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To: Bonaparte
This whole story sounds like a textbook manual for making sure you get murdered eventually.
She did not live with her mother because her mother was "not able to care for her". What the hell does that mean? Alcohol? Drugs? retardation? Quadriplegic? What?
No mention whatsoever of a father.

She played at being a "model". Being attractive is a magnet for the lowest slime on earth. A strong character and a sense of values is the best defense.
"She didn't deserve to be murdered" is the mantra of idiots.
Here, now in the USA at the beginning of the 21st century evil reigns. Criminal as well as tolerated.
And that evil is intense, relentless and uncompromising.
That's the real world, and mouthing platitudes is no defense.

If my daughter ever suggested that "dancing" to earn extra money was her intent, her room would have been converted to a study the next day, and I would have said "good luck". Fortunately I know that was never an option, since her character was shaped with attention and care since she came home from the hospital.

Stories like this one may serve a purpose, I just fail to see which.

18 posted on 09/19/2003 6:44:58 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: Publius6961
Couldn't have said it better. And today, tomorrow and every day after that, girls will be doing exactly the same thing all over our country. Liberals have succeeded in destroying every last vestige of public morality, federal judges have legislated the banishment of God from the public square and, after 8 years of Clinton, every child in America knows exactly what a bl*w-job is.
19 posted on 09/19/2003 7:03:16 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte; glock rocks
Thanks for the link, Bonaparte. I lived there for a time, attended some classes at WKU and spent a lot of time on campus and know one of the attorneys, Broderick. This article is very well written and it all rings true, with the slight error when it says "Scottsville is the county seat"... while techncially true, as it's the county seat of a different county from where the attacks took place. At least I found that line confusing. This poor girl never really got a chance - from foster care to strip clubs to late night fraternity parties - some of these were things she could help and some were things she couldn't. FWIW, my experience that this is news because it's rare - WKU is basically a very quiet, somewhat economically disadvantaged, but basically OK place. I hope they execute the bastards that did this to her. The rich and powerful have been known to get away with stuff in this town - one well known lawyer is generally believed to have torched his home 3 times and never chaged, but then again a doctor in town did jail time for arson. I know of a case where a guy shot a doctor and claimed the prozac made him do it and he got off. So I guess it can go either way. It's a funny part of the country, I'll be following this case with interest. It sure does seem that arson is a recurring theme in BG and I'm not sure I know why.
20 posted on 09/19/2003 7:21:30 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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