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To: Sir Gawain
Any person born in [the territories] to parents who were not Citizens of an individual State could not claim State citizenship by birth or naturalization. Since these individuals were born under the exclusive jurisdiction of the government of the United States, that government claimed the authority to make them statutory citizens of the United States (citizens by statute). However, that government could not, by statute or decree, make these individuals Citizens of a State.

Is there an actual reference for this, or is it just the author's conclusion? Because it seems highly incongruous to me that Congress can make state citizens out of foreigners, via the naturalization clause, but can't make state citizens out of people within its own territories.

4 posted on 09/19/2003 10:15:42 AM PDT by inquest (World socialism: the ultimate multinational corporation)
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To: inquest
sovereign citizen bump for later more detailed reading
6 posted on 09/19/2003 10:30:15 AM PDT by soundbits
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To: inquest
Citizenship could be acquired one of two ways. First, by birth, or second, by being naturalized pursuant to the power of Congress under Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4 of the Constitution.

After the requisite number of States ratified the Constitution, the States' government began acquiring territories west of the existing boundaries of the United States. Since these areas were outside the jurisdiction of the individual States, the government of the United States had exclusive jurisdiction over all persons in these territories. Any person born in these areas to parents who were not Citizens of an individual State could not claim State citizenship by birth or naturalization. Since these individuals were born under the exclusive jurisdiction of the government of the United States, that government claimed the authority to make them statutory citizens of the United States [citizens by statute].


However, that government could not, by statute or decree, make these individuals Citizens of a State.


This same rule applied in the District of Columbia. Pursuant to Article 1, Section 8, Clause 17, the District is under the exclusive authority of the government of the United States because it is not a State. Persons born in the District who could not claim State citizenship were classified as citizens of the United States because they were under the exclusive legislative jurisdiction of the government of the United States.
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Is there an actual reference for this, or is it just the author's conclusion? Because it seems highly incongruous to me that Congress can make state citizens out of foreigners, via the naturalization clause, but can't make state citizens out of people within its own territories.
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State citizenship in the USA is a moot point.
-- Art. IV Sec. 2 makes clear that any citizen has the same privileges/immunities as another, wherever born.


The author is beating a dead horse in yet another idiotic attempt to somehow discredit the 14th.
23 posted on 09/19/2003 11:49:29 AM PDT by tpaine ( I'm trying to be Mr Nice Guy, but politics keep getting in me way. ArnieRino for Governator)
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