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Red China can slap President Bush with impunity because they own him and his party! They know it and we know it.
1 posted on 09/19/2003 6:27:48 AM PDT by Walkin Man
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To: Walkin Man
They are trying to distract you from that by having you fear terrorism from the religon of peace.
3 posted on 09/19/2003 6:41:14 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (See you in the camps.)
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Ping on or off let me know
4 posted on 09/19/2003 6:44:56 AM PDT by harpseal (stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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Red China can slap President Bush with impunity because they own him and his party! They know it and we know it.

Acttually, they can BITCH-SLAP President Bush with impunity, and get away with it. He won't do anything to them or put on a reasonably good tariff to balance the unfair exchange rates and their predatory trade and labor practices.

8 posted on 09/19/2003 6:51:39 AM PDT by Paul Ross (A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one!-A. Hamilton)
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To: Walkin Man
The Chinese communists devalued their currency in 1994. This ultimately instigated the the Asian financial crisis of the late 90's.

The same people crying now were the same ones who rushed in to make use of the low exchange rate and low wages for manufacturing. Now the same people are whining.

The Chinese communists are a despotic regime. They are a terror regime just as much as Iraq. You lay down with dogs, you get fleas.

10 posted on 09/19/2003 6:54:51 AM PDT by tallhappy
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To: Walkin Man
There are many ways to sort this out.

For every exporter in China there is an importer in America.

Import from China and you get bumped up into the next highest tax bracket...the newly created 70% bracket...

It technically won't be a tarriff, and China can peg what it wants...

12 posted on 09/19/2003 7:05:54 AM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Walkin Man; harpseal; All
Between what you have posted here, and this tidbit from the Washington Times, it is clear that the critical nature of the situation with Red China is perculating to the top. It was bound to do that sooner or later...and the sooner the better IMHO. This is what they are doing with the trade imbalance and the manufacturing we are foolishly shipping to them...
U.S. tags China with stiff penalties
By Bill Gertz

Published September 19, 2003



    The State Department has imposed economic sanctions on China for its sales of missile technology, State Department officials said yesterday.


    "These are the strongest sanctions we've ever imposed on China," said one official, speaking on the condition of anonymity.


    The sanctions were imposed on the government-run conglomerate Norinco and will ban all export licenses on controlled U.S. goods to China. That ban prohibits launches of U.S. satellites on Chinese rocket booster.


    Additionally, the sanctions triggered a provision of the Arms Export Control Act that could lead to a ban on imports of a large number of Chinese goods into the United States.


    All of Norinco's products are banned from entering the United States under the new sanctions.


    But more severe sanctions that cover other major Chinese companies were waived for one year and could be triggered if China continues to permit its companies to sell missiles to rogue states, said officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.


    Those sanctions could cost China "billions" of dollars in lost sales, one official said.


    "These sanctions invoke the Helms amendment," the official said. "In this case what it does is that it prevents the U.S. government from issuing any type of export license to a variety of products, including satellite launches."


    The 1991 Helms amendment to the arms-control act, named after Sen. Jesse Helms, North Carolina Republican, punishes nations with nonmarket economies, such as China, by extending sanctions to all companies.


    Invoking the amendment restricts sales to the United States of all goods that could be used in building missiles, including aircraft, electronics, and space systems or equipment.


    No details of the missile-related sale were made public and the identity of the missile-goods purchaser was not identified.


    The sanctions were announced in public documents sent to the Federal Register that will be published in today's edition of the official announcement bulletin.


    It is the third time in four months that China was hit with sanctions for violating U.S. laws regarding the spread of weapons of mass destruction and missile-delivery systems for those weapons. Norinco also was sanctioned in May and July.


    The additional sanctions are an attempt to target a company that U.S. officials have labeled a "serial proliferator" that China's government refuses to rein in.


    Norinco is one of China's largest state-run manufacturers and U.S. officials have estimated that recent sanctions will cause the company up to $100 million in lost U.S. sales.


    The weapons sanctions come amid mounting pressure from the Bush administration on China for trade and financial practices.


    A CIA report to Congress released in March stated that, "Chinese entities remain key suppliers of [weapons of mass destruction] and missile-related technologies to countries of concern."


    Norinco was punished in May with stiff penalties for selling missile-related goods to Iran's Shehid Hemmat Industrial Group, the state-owned defense contractor that builds Iran's short- and medium-range missiles.


    Norinco was caught selling specialty steel used in Iran's missiles in October 2002. The specialty steel sale was upsetting to U.S. officials because it took place two months after Beijing announced new export regulations aimed at curbing missile-technology sales.


    China's government denied the sale took place and denounced the sanctions as an attempt to hinder China's economic growth.


    In July, Norinco and five other Chinese companies were hit with U.S. sanctions under the 2000 Iran Nonproliferation Act for selling chemical, biological and nuclear arms and missile materials to Iran.


    Norinco has been identified as a China's third-largest manufacturer and its products are distributed through numerous U.S. discount retailers.

It will be very painful at this point to address this issue properly...but we MUST do so, because as I try and point out in my Dragon's Fury Series of novels, later the pain will be much, much greater and it will be felt and paid in blood IMHO.
15 posted on 09/19/2003 7:23:51 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Walkin Man
Red China can slap President Bush with impunity because they own him and his party! They know it and we know it.

They own both the Republicans and the Democrats...

19 posted on 09/19/2003 8:01:13 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: Walkin Man
Well, if the issue truely is the economy, I'd suggest we get that tax relief in gear. That's a start. It'll reduce the pressure, and allow nations a better chance to sort this whole thing out.
(Not to mention this article is a left wing source. It's designed to create emotion, because fear sells democrat votes. Fear of their political enemy and the job he's doing is their form of Jahad against the rightous right. It's the only propaganda method they have left.)
Most libertarians probably didn't vote for Bush before, so they probably won't again.
I'd guess most of this thread is libertarian.
26 posted on 09/19/2003 6:27:21 PM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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