To: blueriver
The part that is a government hand-out is that the government allow corporations to import foreign workers into America at the expense of the taxpayer.
Right. Which is not a hand-out. With all due respect, the above statement is, by definition, internally inconsistent. The government hasn't handed anything to anyone. All that has happened is that the government hasn't intervened as you would like them to. By definition, there's no handout here. The government, by it's inaction, is leaving the decisions to the market place. I have no problem with that.
Ask yourself the question - who benefits from importing foreign workers? Is it the tax paying citizen or the corporate executives?
Probably the executives, but who cares? What's wrong with the executives benefiting? The way I read it, you're just rationalizing why the government should intervene. I see no problem with executives and investors benefiting by using the most efficient means of production available to them.
If you think that foreign workers are not using your tax dollars you are sadly mistaken, not to mention the fact that they are displacing American workers.
You may be right, but the last time I checked into it, foreign workers still pay income taxes, so I don't see how they are getting something for nothing, any more than U.S. citizens do anyway. As for the "displacement" issue, that's just market competition which makes the market a better place for everyone. I see no problem with that either.
To: ableChair
The government hasn't handed anything to anyone. All that has happened is that the government hasn't intervened as you would like them to. ..The government, by it's inaction, is leaving the decisions to the market place. What exactly do you call all the visa's that they are handing out? You are looking at this through rose colored glasses - only seeing what it is you want to see. The truth of the matter is that the government has "intervened" in a major way by allowing corporation to import foreigners for jobs in America and in so doing has disrupted the true market place.
You may be right, but the last time I checked into it, foreign workers still pay income taxes,
See: http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/H1BFAQs.htm#DoWorkersPayFICA & http://www.zazona.com/ShameH1B/H1BFAQs.htm#WhatAreBodyshops
As for the "displacement" issue, that's just market competition which makes the market a better place for everyone.
It is not "true" market competition because it is dependent on the U.S government doling out the work visa's.
Probably the executives, but who cares? What's wrong with the executives benefiting? The way I read it, you're just rationalizing why the government should intervene. I see no problem with executives and investors benefiting by using the most efficient means of production available to them.
Nothing wrong with executives making money but I do not need my government giving them a helping hand. If they want foreign workers so bad let them leave America - and good riddens to them I say.
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