The note Rush read today, re. Germany post WWII:

DoD briefing - SOD Rumsfeld, 9/16 ^ | Sept. 18, 2003

[aruanan]

I would like to see the source reference for Germany guerilla operations. This is urban legend without specific sources.

Try HERE for an article by Alexander Perry Biddiscombe and HERE for a description of his book Werwolf!: The History of the National Socialist Guerrilla Movement, 1944-1946.

[ex-snook]

Sorry. I'm looking for sources that lists the dates, units, and locations. What you cited were just about revisionist history. I want to see GI deaths specified so that verification is possible. I would like to see if he lists any units with which I am familiar. If deaths can't be verified, it is just urban legend.

[aruanan]

Sorry. I'm looking for sources that lists the dates, units, and locations. What you cited were just about revisionist history. I want to see GI deaths specified so that verification is possible. I would like to see if he lists any units with which I am familiar. If deaths can't be verified, it is just urban legend.

Well, I'll check out this book that is here in the university's library, the one published by the University of Toronto, and see what is there.

[spectre]

I am reading Beevor's epic work - "The Fall of Berlin 1945" right now. It has just dropped off the first row bookshelves where it stayed for six months and now sells for nine bucks at major bookstores - I got mine at Barnes and Noble.

If you are interested in this era, it is a must have.

Beevor devotes only three pages of his 500 page work to "Werwolf".The reason being, it was not an important movement.

It was a loose plan that never really materialized and was more propaganda put out by theNazis during their last days.

On page 175 he writes -

"Ultimately, Werwolf achieved very little, apart from a couple of assasinations - the mayors of Aachen and Krankenhagen - and the intimidation of civilians."

On the same page:

"In the west, the allies found that Werwolf was a fiasco."

[ex-snook]

""In the west, the allies found that Werwolf was a fiasco." "

Thanks for your research. Any Werwolf activity in the US Zone was a zero. Some writers, quoting writers, quoting other writers about the existence of the Werwolfs at one time is not the same thing as documenting any GI killings done by the Werwolfs (which was the point of the Iraq comparisons).

[Austin Willard Wright]

I have asked the same question about casualities numbers many times and have come and never get a straight answer. I have come to the conclusion that advocates of the werewolf theory simply don't care about evidence.

[ex-snook]

" have come to the conclusion that advocates of the werewolf theory simply don't care about evidence. "

It's because they can't produce any evidence of GI killings. If Rush made this point then Rush has taken a hit on his 'accuracy %". BTW is is Werewolf or Werwolf??

[Helms]

The Demonocrats have been running so far left that they won’t be able to get a hold of the center during the real campaign. I am hoping too that they are doing this in fear of Nader returning.

Come November of 04 we could see a 55-45 Senate, more House seat pickups and a new mandate for the administration.

Teddy Kennedy, the Old Fat Bastard and beached whale, made me happy if for no other reason that his noise to me idicates a political party in trouble.