To: NormsRevenge; onyx; Tamsey; Poohbah; All
Speaking of referendums. There was a guy last January who held a press conference and said that he had the ability to stop the car tax by referendum. He said he would do so and that Sacramento would not see one cent of new car tax money.
This, of course, did not happen and the car tax is here. Can you name the individual who made these claims? And why should we believe this guy now?
The following statement seems to have disappeared from his site. Thanks to Google it was saved.
http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:idinsTX69ssJ:www.tommcclintock.com/news/sp20030127a.cfm+referendum+%22mcclintock%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Referendum on the Car Tax Increase
January 23, 2003 Statement by Senator Tom McClintock
Thank you for coming.
The purpose of this press conference is very simply to put the legislature and the governor on notice that they should not expect to see a penny from increased car taxes if they adopt AB 4X.
If the Democrats want the biggest statewide tax revolt in 24 years, this is the quickest way to get it.
Within minutes of that measure being chaptered, the paperwork will be filed with the Secretary of State to referend it. This will automatically suspend the act for 90 days.
We have with us today representatives of the major grassroots taxpayer organizations in the state, who are already pledged to make a referendum of the car tax their top priority. I can certainly pledge the statewide campaign structure that I have built during my campaign for the state controller's office. And I intend to request the formal support of the California Republican Party as well.
It will require 373,000 signatures to qualify the referendum, at which time the effect of the tax increase will be stayed until the next election. At that time, the people will have the opportunity to reject the tax increase, which I believe they will do overwhelmingly.
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So those who vote for this bill should be on notice not to expect a penny from this tax. The filing and qualification of the referendum will stay the effect of this bill until the people of California have the opportunity to soundly repudiate it. And then they will have the opportunity to repudiate the politicians who sought to triple their car taxes.
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To: RGSpincich; BibChr; FairOpinion; deport; Registered; EggsAckley; doodlelady; PRND21; RonDog; ...
WOWSER! What a catch! This is news to me!
*pinging* ya-all to RGS's #12.
13 posted on
09/18/2003 9:33:37 AM PDT by
onyx
To: RGSpincich
Interesting info, thanks!
I still think McClintock has more of the right stances, just none of Arnold's ability to win and push the stances through. And it is frustrating to have McClintock held up as absolutely perfect when he is absolutely not ;-)
15 posted on
09/18/2003 9:51:41 AM PDT by
Tamzee
("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
To: RGSpincich
I intend to request the formal support of the California Republican Party as well.
Nice try. I don't suppose the fact that the CA Republican Party fell flat on its face on this matters either. You really hate Tom, don't you? Keep it up. Your boy, Arnold , if and when he wins will not be the bearer of anything pleasant eitehr, but you won't go there. It's called reality. Try it sometime.
At least Tom, was willing to put his head on the block.
What promises is Arnold making that he will also fail to act on or deliver on?
19 posted on
09/18/2003 11:20:09 AM PDT by
NormsRevenge
(I brake for RINOs.)
To: RGSpincich
Speaking of referendums. There was a guy last January who held a press conference and said that he had the ability to stop the car tax by referendum. He said he would do so and that Sacramento would not see one cent of new car tax money. This, of course, did not happen and the car tax is here. Can you name the individual who made these claims? And why should we believe this guy now?
The following statement seems to have disappeared from his site. Thanks to Google it was saved.
Ah you may want to check your fact on what happen on the stop the car tax by referendum... The dems pulled a unique stunt to block a referendum .. and Tom team got redirect in to the recall..... Where was Arnold?
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From..http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/members/a55/News/an552003027.htm
Los Angeles Times
Assembly Says Car Fee Must Go Up for Budget to Go Down
Date: January 29, 2003
By Evan Halper
Times Staff Writer
SACRAMENTO -- The Assembly voted Tuesday to cut $3.5 billion from the state budget adopted in September, but only if Gov. Gray Davis agrees to an increase in the license fee on most motor vehicles.
Rather than their earlier plan to triple the vehicle license fee across the board, Democrats proposed -- and the Assembly approved -- applying the increase only to vehicles worth more than $5,000.
The Democrats argued that the change means they are proposing to impose a "levy" -- not a fee -- which under state law cannot be reversed by referendum.
The move set off a furor among Republicans. "This is a gimmick," said Assemblyman Guy Houston (R-Livermore). "It is not about exempting the poor. It is about exempting the voters."
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From....http://www.dailybulletin.com/Stories/0,1413,203%257E21481%257E1143072,00.html
Republicans rebuffed in budget battle
Assembly passes car-tax hike and prevents voters overturning it
By DAVID M. DRUCKER, STAFF WRITER
SACRAMENTO - Tuesday was an exercise in futility for Inland Valley Republicans, who watched Assembly Democrats attach spending cuts to a $4 billion car-tax hike and pass it in a way that prevents voters from overturning it by referendum.
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From....http://www.davisrecall.com/about/battle.cfm
The Battle of the Recall: Read How it Began.....
For the Republicans, the car tax is an issue that stimulates images of a ready militia. Under the direction of Col. (Sen.) Tom McClintock, over 5,000 citizens (The State of California Tax Militia) volunteered to operate the gathering of signatures for a referendum on the car tax. Over 5,000 volunteers in less than a week with only talk radio as the outletmakes one wonder what will happen when talk radio is afforded 160 days to encourage 890,000 signatures for a recall. I'm sure it makes the governor wonder too!
20 posted on
09/18/2003 11:39:31 AM PDT by
tophat9000
(The price for Tom to drop is ....Parsky goes ....let Tom have the CA party purse strings)
To: RGSpincich
Gosh Tom Gosh
26 posted on
09/18/2003 1:44:40 PM PDT by
PRND21
To: RGSpincich
Within minutes of that measure being chaptered, the paperwork will be filed with the Secretary of State to referend it. This will automatically suspend the act for 90 days. He's doing it now, but a bit differently. He couldn't do it until the car tax was imposed. It's been imposed, and Tom has followed through. You bad mouth him for not doing something that wasn't possible to do yet. As soon as it was possible, he did it in spades.
He's gone the route of initiative instead of referendum. A referendum could only appeal the car tax, leaving it where it would have been before the increase.
The initiative is a constitutional provision that not only repeals the car tax increase, but reapeals the car tax ALTOGETHER. It punishes the politicians for messing with it in the first place.
Tom has not only followed through on his promise, he has improved it.
You shouldn't make these kinds of statements when you don't understand the process.
Hb
28 posted on
09/19/2003 4:43:15 PM PDT by
Hoverbug
(whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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