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Garry Kasparov: KGB State
Wall Street Journal ^ | Thursday, September 18, 2003 | GARRY KASPAROV

Posted on 09/18/2003 8:06:41 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 04/22/2004 11:49:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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1 posted on 09/18/2003 8:06:42 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Wow! World's best chessplayer is ALSO politically astute. I remember when the Soviet Union backed Karpov over Kasparov because of Kasparov's views. (At least I THINK that's the way it was...been awhile ago!) I always thought Kasparov was such an improvement over Karpov, the scrawny little twerp!
2 posted on 09/18/2003 8:10:39 AM PDT by Maria S (“I know a little bit about how White Houses work.” Hillary Clinton, 8/26/03)
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To: presidio9
Five years ago, then FSB chief Vladimir Putin spoke the truth when he said, "There are no ex-KGB officers!" Will the West ever learn?

The West is learning well, only they are learning the wrong lesson: Suspension and diminution of liberty are easy when the sheeple are ready to give up liberty for the Homeland Security's illusion of safety.

3 posted on 09/18/2003 8:11:00 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: presidio9
Kasparov has long made it clear that he has political aspirations. In one article he offers rare insight into both Vladimir Putin and the US State Department. Looks like we have someone to back for the next president of Russia.
4 posted on 09/18/2003 9:31:36 AM PDT by Toskrin
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To: Toskrin; boris
I am not sure why this article does not appear on the "editorials" list on the side of my screen. This is the most interesting article I have read today, and the most interesting article on Russia that I have read in quite some time.
5 posted on 09/18/2003 9:40:45 AM PDT by presidio9 (If the rest of the world likes Americans only when we're dying, the rest of the world can go to hell)
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To: Maria S
Every once in a while, he writes for The WSJ --- always interesting, deep, and insightful.
6 posted on 09/18/2003 10:59:46 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Maria S
He certainly beats Bobby Fischer in this realm.
7 posted on 09/18/2003 11:22:06 AM PDT by xp38
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To: presidio9; Dog Gone; SierraWasp; NormsRevenge; madfly; snopercod; sasquatch; sauropod; ...
Well worth the time. He's right.

One would think that Condi Rice would know better. What's missing from this picture?
8 posted on 09/18/2003 11:22:59 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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To: Carry_Okie
I think Condoleeza Rice has a soft spot for Russia since she speaks the language fluently. She must have at least been fascinated with Russia to take up the language in the first place.
9 posted on 09/18/2003 11:30:44 AM PDT by xp38
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To: xp38
Oh man! Google up Bobby Fischer if you want to confirm he is still nutty as a fruitcake.
10 posted on 09/18/2003 11:49:58 AM PDT by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: Toskrin
Putin is a pretty cool customer, but I wonder how he would hold up if you set him down across a table from Kasparov, and then... THE LOOK


11 posted on 09/18/2003 12:34:52 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: Carry_Okie
Undercutting Putin only makes sense if you are certain he will be replaced by someone better. (See Jimmy Carter and "Shah of Iran")
12 posted on 09/18/2003 12:41:44 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: presidio9
>One of Yukos's major shareholders, Platon Lebedev, has been jailed on charges widely seen in Russia as having less to do with justice than with signaling to all Russian business that no one is safe. ...


13 posted on 09/18/2003 12:43:52 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: RussianConservative
Ping !

Your thoughts please.
14 posted on 09/18/2003 12:47:02 PM PDT by jimt
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To: eno_
No need. There have been a number of threads on FR that confirmed it.
15 posted on 09/18/2003 1:00:24 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Dog Gone
I don't think that was Kasparov's point. He was indicating that we might have a better chance of assuring that better options remain in play by how we choose to react to Russia's machinations. There's nothing wrong with that.
16 posted on 09/18/2003 1:01:03 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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Well, he's very vague about what we're doing wrong, except that we're misunderstanding the situation in Russia. I'm not even sure that assertion is correct.

Most well-read people understand that Russia is hardly a model of democracy, that the legal system is unreliable, and that the country is run by a coalition of politicians and a criminal oligarchy. Nor is anyone unaware that Russia was quite unhelpful at the UN before the war.

I think Garry's piece is quite good in describing what's wrong with Russia and why we should be very cautious in our dealings with them. It's just that it seems to me that we are being cautious, diplomatic happy-faces nothwithstanding.

17 posted on 09/18/2003 1:49:49 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Well, he's very vague about what we're doing wrong, except that we're misunderstanding the situation in Russia. I'm not even sure that assertion is correct.

It's just that it seems to me that we are being cautious, diplomatic happy-faces nothwithstanding.

Actually, I think he makes the point that we have been cautious to the point of timidity that brings its own consequences and should be more aggressive in pressing our positions with Moscow.

18 posted on 09/18/2003 2:48:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (A faith in Justice, none in "fairness")
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To: presidio9
I think things are going along just as our State Department would have liked. They were deeply saddened by the events of the late '80s.
19 posted on 09/18/2003 2:58:16 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Carry_Okie
He certainly thinks we're not being assertive enough with Russia, but I don't get the "timid" part. We're not afraid of Russia. He thinks we've been duped and Putin and the former KGB are out to get us.

I don't think we've been duped. It's a question of whether Russia needs to be encouraged into a functional democracy or bullied into one. That's a legitimate question for debate, although it is obvious that we've taken the more cautious approach. If the former KGB, including Putin, are resolute in undercutting the US, and encouragement will never work, then we have to consider what would happen if we get aggressive.

20 posted on 09/18/2003 3:31:23 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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