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To: ex-snook
At your service:

Updated 10/2/99
Honor and Dishonor
Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

What can be said about those public figures who enlisted in the war effort
against Serbia, defended the indefensible, celebrated this destruction, and
even called for more? They belong on a roll of dishonor, and here is a
start:

DISHONOR ROLL


David Aaronovitch (London Independent)
Spencer Abraham (R-MI.)
Christiane Amanpour (CNN)
Dick Armey (R-TX)
Larry Arnn (Claremont Institute)
William Bartley (Wall Street Journal)
Joe Barton (R-TX)
Saul Bellow (writer)
John R. Bolton (American Enterprise Institute)
Max Boot (Wall Street Journal)
David Bonior (D-MI)
Barbara Boxer (D-CA)
George Bush (ex-president)
Zbigniew Brzezinski (lobbyist)
John Chafee (R-RI)
Winston Churchill, Jr. (British Parliament)
Eliot A. Cohen (Johns Hopkins University
Chris Cox (R-CA)
Mike Dewine (R-OH)
Bob Dole (lobbyist)
Elizabeth Dole (politician)
Susan Estrich (columnist)
Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
Geraldine Ferraro (politician)
Steve Forbes (Forbes Magazine)
Thomas Friedman (New York Times)
John Fund (Wall Street Journal)
Sam Gejdenson (D-CT)
Richard Gephardt (D-MO)
Paul Gigot (Wall Street Journal)
Jonah Goldberg (National Review)
Daniel Jonah Goldhagen (Harvard University)
Katharine Graham (Washington Post)
Hugo Gurdon (London Telegraph)
Chuck Hagel (R-NE)
David Hart (London Times)
Orrin Hatch (R-UT)
Jacob Heilbrunn (New Republic)
Bruce Herschensohn (Claremont Institute)
John Hillen (Center for Strategic and International Studies)
Albert R. Hunt (Wall Street Journal)
Bianca Jagger (celebrity)
Jim Jeffords (R-VT)
Robert Kagan (Carnegie Endowment for International Peace)
Robert D. Kaplan (Atlantic Monthly)
Garry Kasparov (Wall Street Journal)
Robert W. Kasten (lobbyist) Henry Kissinger (lobbyist)
Charles Krauthammer (Washington Post)
William Kristol (Weekly Standard)
Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Rabbi Michael Lerner (Hilary's guru)
Anthony Lewis (New York Times)
G. Gordon Liddy (G. Gordon Liddy Show)
Joseph Lieberman (D-CT)
Richard Lugar (R-IN)
John McCain (R-AZ)
Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
Connie Mack (R-FL)
Eric Margolis (Toronto Sun)
George Melloan (Wall Street Journal)
Dick Morris (NY Post)
Kate O'Beirne (National Review)
William Odom (Hudson Institute)
Michael O'Hanlon (Brookings Institute)
John O'Sullivan (National Review)
Martin Peretz (New Republic)
Andrea Petersen (Wall Street Journal)
Ellen Joan Pollock (Wall Street Journal)
Ramesh Poneru (National Review)
Samantha Power (Kennedy School)
David Pryce-Jones (National Review)
Therese Rafael (Wall Street Journal Europe)
Howell Raines (New York Times)
Vanessa Redgrave (actress)
David Rieff (Salon)
Peter W. Rodman (National Review)
Andy Rooney (60 Minutes)
William Roth (R-DE)
William Safire (New York Times)
William Saletan (Slate)
Bernie Sanders (I-VT)
Gerald Seib (Wall Street Journal)
Richard Shelby (R-AL)
Ike Skelton (D-MO)
Gordon H. Smith (R-OR.)
Olympia Snowe (R-ME)
Stephen Solarz (D-NY)
Susan Sontag (writer)
George Soros (Open Society Institute)
Arlen Specter (R-PA)
Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr. (New York Times)
William Howard Taft IV (lobbyist)
Ellen Tauscher (D-CA)
David Tell (Weekly Standard)
John Warner (R-VA)
J.C. Watts (R-OK)
Caspar Weinberger (Forbes Magazine)
Elie Wiesel (writer)
Leon Wieseltier (New Republic)
George Will (columnist)
R. James Woolsey (ex-bureaucrat
11 posted on 09/18/2003 8:49:47 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Bring the boys back home, George.)
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To: JohnGalt
Your whole post is a disgrace. Labeling all Kosovars as terrorists is disgusting... The Serbs' blood lust, land grab caused over 200,000 deaths in the region. They needed to be stopped, as it averted countless thousands more deaths...

The assertion that Klinton may have had ulterior motives is totally plausible, and I despise the Klintons and Clark, but this thread is pure and unadulterated BS, just another way to show off your racist view- i.e.- all Muslims worldwide are terrorists.

Again, a disgrace. Would all of those Senators/Congressmen/other well-known figures have supported the war in favor of terrorists? BS.

13 posted on 09/18/2003 8:59:15 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: JohnGalt
Thanks for that. It would be great if there a comparable list of America first patriots who opposed the Clinton-Blair fiasco.
14 posted on 09/18/2003 9:01:38 AM PDT by ex-snook (Americans needs PROTECTIONISM - military and economic.)
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To: JohnGalt
A couple of anecdotes about the Kosovo war and those who supported or opposed it and how this kinda opened my eyes. I had been a reader of the Weekly Standard before Kosovo came up. But during that conflict I saw that rag for what it is- a shameless shill for empire and the welfare state with a veneer of cultural conservatism. When a faction of Republicans was trying to stop the bombing through a legal challenge the Standard reacted violently against them. Kristol even threatened to bolt the GOP and go over to the Democrats over this fraud of a war if the GOP failed to back Clinton. When the war was over- the Standard's headline was "VICTORY". What they meant by "Victory" was that America had planted itself in yet another country and the Empire was growing. The neocon loyalty to the GOP is not even skin deep. They are parasites on the party. I have never bought a Standard since.

Another anecdote. After the war- Keyes was being interviewed by Novak and (I think) Bill Press. When asked about Kosovo he- in his usual eloquence- denounced the entire venture as a fraud and totally not within US interests. Press attacked him violently but Keyes fended him off and Novak supported him. I knew then foreign policy was going to be a divisive issue within the GOP.

16 posted on 09/18/2003 9:05:11 AM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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