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MPs extend hate-crime protection [to homosexuals in Canada - possible Bible banning]
The Globe and Mail ^ | 9/18/03 | CP (Canadian Press)

Posted on 09/18/2003 6:13:30 AM PDT by doc30

MPs approved a bill to extend hate-crimes protection to gays and lesbians on Wednesday, voting 141 to 110.

Bill C-250, a private member's bill introduced by New Democrat MP Svend Robinson, would amend the hate propaganda section of the Criminal Code to add homosexuals to a list of groups legally protected from incitement of hatred and genocide.

"It's been a good week for equality in Canada," an emotional Mr. Robinson said outside the Commons. "I feel proud to be a Canadian."

Approval of the bill came a day after MPs narrowly defeated a motion to maintain the traditional definition of marriage, marking another victory for Canada's gay and lesbian community.

Although private members' bills have a history of being rare to pass in the House of Commons, Bill C-250 was approved on several readings.

Mr. Robinson said the bill was necessary.

The existing hate propaganda law, passed in 1970, bans incitement of hatred on the basis of colour, race, religion and ethnic origin, but not "sexual orientation." Conviction carries a maximum penalty of up to five years in prison.

Gays have long protested the omission, citing the fact that homosexuals are frequently targeted for verbal and physical attacks. Mr.Robinson has fought for its inclusion since 1981.

"What my bill would do is to recognize that just as we say it's wrong to promote hatred or violence against racial or religious or ethnic minorities, so too, should we say it's just as wrong to promote that hatred or violence directed at gay or lesbian people," Mr. Robinson told CBC Newsworld before the vote.

The Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police and the Canadian Police Association, representing 28,000 front-line officers, support the bill.

Police have so far been powerless to prosecute the likes of Rev. Fred Phelps of Topeka, Kan. who runs a virulent anti-gay website. Supporters of Mr. Phelps have entered Canada twice in recent years to stage anti-gay rallies.

The bill still requires Senate approval and royal assent before becoming law.

The Canadian Alliance and many church groups say they fear that extending hate-crime protection for gays could criminalize religious texts, including the Bible, that condemn homosexuality.

Not so, said Liberal MP Derek Lee. He pushed for a change to the bill that unanimously passed in the Commons three months ago. The amended bill exempts from the hate crime section anyone expressing an anti-gay belief based on a religious text.

That change removed a handy excuse for those who would unjustly refuse equal protections to homosexuals, Mr. Robinson said.

"What this bill is about, fundamentally, is sending a message to the gay bashers. It's about sending a message to those who promote hatred and violence and death of gay men like Aaron Webster who was beaten to death with a baseball bat in Vancouver," Mr. Robinson said.

He said fears that freedom of speech and religion will suffer are "a mask for homophobia for people who don't want to be honest about the real reason why they don't want to include sexual orientation in the law."

Mr. Robinson said he regularly receives hateful e-mails and his constituency office in Burnaby, B.C. was trashed in 1988 when he became Canada's first openly gay MP.

Conservative MP Scott Brison, representing Kings-Hants in Nova Scotia, came out of the closet last winter. He said that he too has been verbally threatened and physically attacked for being gay.

Prior to the vote Mr. Robinson said he was proud of the fact that some of the MPs who voted in favour of the Canadian Alliance motion on Tuesday were voting in favour of his private members bill.

Progressive Conservative Leader Peter MacKay was one such MP.

Mr. MacKay told reporters that he supports Mr. Robinson's bill because it modernizes laws that have not changed in 100 years.

Alliance MP Brian Pallister, representing Portage-Lisgar in Manitoba, voted against the bill. He resents being called "homophobic," and said he has fought for equal economic rights for gays in the past.

"It's unhelpful to label people just because they disagree with you," Mr. Pallister said. Physically and mentally disabled Canadians, along with other identifiable groups, are also hate-crime victims but aren't specifically protected under the law, he added.

"Where do you draw the line? To suppress free speech only drives bigots and abusers underground, he said. "You want those people out in the open, then they show how stupid they really are."


TOPICS: Breaking News; Canada; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: biblebanning; canada; freespeech; gayrights; hatecrimes; homosexualagenda; prisoners
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Svend Robinson (he's openly gay and an NDP'r - an ultra socialist liberal) finally got passed a bill he's been promoting for years - hate crimes protection for homosexuals. In Canada, gay activists have promised to use this legislation to try to ban the Bible for its passages that condemn homosexuality. This is on top of the Canadian Parliament throwing out the definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman to the exclusion of all others.

Perhaps there will be Canadians claiming refugee status in the U.S. on the grounds of religious persecution for being Christian.

1 posted on 09/18/2003 6:13:34 AM PDT by doc30
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To: doc30
"Welcome to Canada. How long will be staying--- wait, whats that you got here? A Bible?
You'll have to go with Lt. Serge."
2 posted on 09/18/2003 6:18:03 AM PDT by Semper Paratus
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To: doc30
Homosexual agenda
Get rid of the bible...specifically those nasty parts that condemn their sin...
Pagans....
3 posted on 09/18/2003 6:18:14 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: doc30
How can gays be victims of "genocide" if they do not reproduce and have no distinct ethnic entity?
4 posted on 09/18/2003 6:18:43 AM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: doc30
Sooner or later the Federation is doomed. Canada will not last another generation as a nation.
5 posted on 09/18/2003 6:29:07 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: doc30
All people are equal, it's just some people are more equal than others.
6 posted on 09/18/2003 6:32:31 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: doc30
How very entertaining! So Fred and the freaks go to Canada and stand on a street corner with their signs. If there is free speech, there is nothing in this ordinance to prevent that from happening. If the freaks don't touch the queers, what difference does this law make?
7 posted on 09/18/2003 6:33:27 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: Alouette
...they do not reproduce...

ManNotIncluded.com has made it possible for Lesbian couples to have children, and they can even use sperm from a homosexual man. This has taken heterosexual's totally out of the picture.

8 posted on 09/18/2003 6:37:10 AM PDT by jgrubbs
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To: jgrubbs
When I said they don't reproduce, I meant that homosexual couples can not reproduce on their own without some kind of outside assistance from a third party, whether it is a sperm donation or a womb for rent.
9 posted on 09/18/2003 6:39:01 AM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: Sunshine Sister
How very entertaining! So Fred and the freaks go to Canada and stand on a street corner with their signs. If there is free speech, there is nothing in this ordinance to prevent that from happening. If the freaks don't touch the queers, what difference does this law make?

The problem is that in Canada, hate speech is considered a hate crime. All you need to do is condemn a protected group and you are guilty of a hate crime. THe logic of the Canadaian judicial system is that condemning speech may incite others into physical action against the protected group. Therefore, you are responsible becasue your speech inflamed the situation. That's why the passages in Leviticus would be considered hate speech. People may use it to justify attacks on homosexuals, therefore the speech is inflammatory and cannot be made legally. Its not the presence of violence, its the potential for violence. People have already been sent to jail for quoting Scripture against homosexuality.

10 posted on 09/18/2003 6:43:14 AM PDT by doc30
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To: doc30
A nation who criminalizes thought is a nation that is over.

No one ever learned to love or respect another by force.
All they are doing is fomenting civil war and faggocide.
11 posted on 09/18/2003 6:45:14 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (See you in the camps.)
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To: doc30
Svend Robinson (he's openly gay and an NDP'r - an ultra socialist liberal)

Liberal??

Svend Robinson also is a fervent supporter of Yassar Arafat
and has visited him several times in his compound at Ramallah
at taxpayer's expense

12 posted on 09/18/2003 6:47:57 AM PDT by Allan
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In Canada, gay activists have promised to use this legislation to try to ban the Bible for its passages that condemn homosexuality...

It has begun.

This action in Canuckistan is the Socialist beta-test for what will be implemented in America.

It's what will happen, upon the ascendancy to total power of the most famous, beloved, and politically active lesbian in modern history:


13 posted on 09/18/2003 6:52:38 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Serving You... on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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14 posted on 09/18/2003 6:53:04 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: doc30
But the law specifically mentions people quoting the Bible as being exempt. That what fred and the freaks do. They quite the Bible.
15 posted on 09/18/2003 6:55:34 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: doc30
Not so, said Liberal MP Derek Lee. He pushed for a change to the bill that unanimously passed in the Commons three months ago. The amended bill exempts from the hate crime section anyone expressing an anti-gay belief based on a religious text.

I'd like to see the wording of this so-called exemption.

16 posted on 09/18/2003 7:02:40 AM PDT by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: doc30
genocide ???
17 posted on 09/18/2003 7:03:18 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: doc30
possible Bible banning

You posted the article. Did you even bother to read it?

The amended bill exempts from the hate crime section anyone expressing an anti-gay belief based on a religious text.

"A sure sign we have invented God is when he hates the same people we hate."

18 posted on 09/18/2003 7:04:38 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Sunshine Sister
Previous rulings have said otherwise. Heres an excerpt from an articel posted yesterday on FR:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/984034/posts

The rights code allows for expression of honestly held beliefs, but the commission ruled the code can place "reasonable restriction" on Owens's religious expression, because the ad exposed the complainants "to hatred, ridicule, and their dignity was affronted on the basis of their sexual orientation."

Basically, if you quote scripture and it makes the targeted group feel uncomfortable, you have committed a hate crime.

19 posted on 09/18/2003 7:11:36 AM PDT by doc30
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To: doc30
It'still okay to hate cannibals, I believe.

I hate Svend Robinson and all the other socialist cannibals that are consuming what once was my country, and is now mere carrion for the leftist feeders.

Our only hope is a revolution by the young. Canadian elders are too, too corrupted by socialism to save their own lives, imo.
20 posted on 09/18/2003 7:14:29 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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