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U.S.-China Space Alliance Urged
Wired ^

Posted on 09/17/2003 5:37:54 PM PDT by maui_hawaii

Edited on 06/29/2004 7:10:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The United States should work on joint space projects with China, which is preparing to send its first person into space, the China chief of U.S. aerospace company Boeing said. China is working on becoming the third nation to undertake manned spaceflight, and many analysts believe the mission could blast off around the country's October 1 National Day.


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"We really think it is a matter of NASA and what they want to do,"

NASA my @ss! NASA has (or should have) no say.

How about "the Pentagon"...

-- our hands are tied

Yeah. Sure. Whatever.

Corporate America (especially those in the unique position with China such as Lockheed and a few others) tend to undertake their own foreign policy.

It tends to contradict the law though.

1 posted on 09/17/2003 5:37:54 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
By all means America and China should link up space programs. But leave NASA to whatever rubber room of incoherency it's in now and start a new agency.
2 posted on 09/17/2003 5:41:16 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: maui_hawaii
Since they can do it for 1/10th the cost, let them handle the space program. We can supply government appointed advisors and experts to tell the Chinese what to do.
3 posted on 09/17/2003 5:43:14 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (Concerned about globalism? read http://toogoodreports.com/spotlight/110100-td.htm)
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To: maui_hawaii
Let's make them responsible for space shuttle operations, that way it's no big deal if they burn up their astronauts in the atmosphere.
4 posted on 09/17/2003 5:43:47 PM PDT by Brett66
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To: maui_hawaii
Cover story for technology transfers.
5 posted on 09/17/2003 5:43:54 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: maui_hawaii; Torie
We really think it is a matter of NASA and what they want to do," David Wang, president of Boeing China, told reporters. "Until NASA feels the U.S. should cooperate with China on space -- and I think they should, the time has come -- our hands are tied," Wang said. "But we are certainly very interested," he said.

Yeah, let's help China with ballistic missile and satellite technology some more.


6 posted on 09/17/2003 5:44:06 PM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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By all means America and China should link up space programs.

Are you kidding me?

If we teach them to launch rockets into space they will also be able to launch one to...wherever... and/or proliferate that technology like they always have been doing.

That stuff is the ultimate dual use technology.

I wonder how much of our military prowess resulted from space related technology...

7 posted on 09/17/2003 5:47:13 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
Thats exactly what a lot of these companies want.

To hell with them.

Play with fire and you are going to get burned...

8 posted on 09/17/2003 5:48:52 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: maui_hawaii
Are you kidding me?

No, not.

We'll probably learn as much as they do.

9 posted on 09/17/2003 5:51:06 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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Yeah, let's help China with ballistic missile and satellite technology some more.

My point exactly.

This guy is funny. He claims 'our hands our tied'... when in reality his cohorts decided on their own that they will cooperate no matter what.

Thats a decision above their pay grade...but they do it anyway.

Doesn't it make you feel good that Congress can pass no law that corporate America can't break and get away with...

10 posted on 09/17/2003 5:51:54 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: RightWhale
Since you are serious when you say that the US should cooperate I will be serious when I say that I completely disagree.
11 posted on 09/17/2003 5:54:56 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Shermy
This is how things work. There are certain special elements that think we should do this or that... based on their own limited views....

Then they either A)lobby like hell for it (and buy off half of the Senate) or B) get impatient with the A) process and do it anyway...

Congress...law...yeah...what a joke. Both of them. Congress doesn't mean what it says half the time.

12 posted on 09/17/2003 5:58:12 PM PDT by maui_hawaii
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To: Normal4me; RightWhale; demlosers; Prof Engineer; BlazingArizona; ThreePuttinDude; Brett66; ...
My response would be Hell no!

Space Ping! This is the space ping list! Let me know if you want on or off this list!
13 posted on 09/17/2003 6:01:09 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: maui_hawaii
Clinton started such an effort years ago......
14 posted on 09/17/2003 6:06:03 PM PDT by yooper
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To: At _War_With_Liberals
"We can supply government appointed advisors and experts to tell the Chinese what to do."

Clinton already did that......

15 posted on 09/17/2003 6:07:12 PM PDT by yooper
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To: maui_hawaii
The heck with that!

We should be doing our best to sabotage their program. Space belongs to the US. Not to bloody Chicoms.

16 posted on 09/17/2003 6:28:47 PM PDT by LenS
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To: KevinDavis
I agree with Kevin. An alliance with the Chinese on this would be just what they need to pick our pockets of whatever secrets we have so far managed to conceal (there must be some) despite the best efforts of Clinton and Loral to give away the store.

Let's keep the Chinese as competitors. Despite any soft words from Chinese-linked PR firms, they have no doubt that we are THEIR competitors and treat us accordingly.

I am surprised at the stupidity of people for even suggesting this. Competition, national or otherwise, brings results.
17 posted on 09/17/2003 6:59:45 PM PDT by Ronin (When the fox gnaws -- smile!)
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To: maui_hawaii
We will cooperate with China in space and elsewhere - the day after the ChiCom government falls, and not a day earlier.
18 posted on 09/17/2003 7:20:28 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: KevinDavis
That would certainly be shooting ourselves in the foot, to say the least. Unfortunately, stratospheric public debt will force us to either do the deal or forgo any meaningful space program on our own, I predict.

The soccer Moms, et.al., won't support diverting monies from bottomless pit programs like 'education' into something so impractical as space exploration, and you can bet politicians will be more than willing to accomodate.

I really hope I'm wrong.

19 posted on 09/17/2003 7:26:52 PM PDT by Paulie
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To: maui_hawaii
I think this is a wonderful idea!

Make NASA a senior partner in the Chinese space program.

That should set them back at least 10 years. Maybe as much as 30.

20 posted on 09/17/2003 7:45:50 PM PDT by irv
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