The War Party's Enablers: all of us

SF Chroncile | 14 Spet. '03 | Robert Higgs

[ohioman]

You are an Anti-american commie who need a good butt-kickin.

[u-89]

>You are an Anti-american commie who need a good butt-kickin.

Do you criticize domestic policy? I'll bet you do. Does that make you an America hater? If not then why am I because I criticize foreign policy? The purpose of my critique is to protect and preserve America. Our century of liberal/globalist foreign policy has proven to be a bloody mess.

Who's going to do this ass kicking? I don't know you but I bench press 400 pounds and feel pretty confident that you would be pretty polite to me in person. Since I'm a peace loving sort of fellow I'll leave the first move up to you. My personal belief is the same as my foreign policy - strong and ready defense, I don't shy from a fight but I sure don't look for looking for them.

[u-89]

Just because the majority of zionists were not terrorists does not mean they did not exist or have an effect upon the British. Perhaps my memory is faulty but I don't recall the Brits stamping them out either. What's so libelous about saying that? You seem to be overly sensitive to the point of paranoia. You should not be so quick to suspect people of malicious intentions. Just for your information I am neither a far left person or a far right person nor the other thing which you mentioned.

cordially,

[Burkeman1]

Read through this entire thread and I commend your bravery for posting it. I particulary like the poster who identified himself as a hard liner Likudnik and then said he would have you stripped of your citizenship and property and give you an a**whopping as you were deported. My question to that poster is from what country would you have u-89 deported?

[Burkeman1]

A theme that seems to pervade this thread is that if it came from the Left it is a lie. That is nonsense. The Left can be fast and lose with the truth. But not everything they say is a lie. Where they go wrong is the conclusions they reach from their facts. For example. We supported some pretty rough and tumble Authoritarian dictators during the Cold War who committed Human Rights abuses. The Left was always all over those regimes and highlighted their abuses. But they also invariably ignored the even greater Human Rights abuses of the communist rebels and if such a country fell to them ignored Human Rights atrocities on a large scale altogether. Joan Biaz- the folk singer and anti Viet Nam activist- tried to rally her fellow left wingers in a protest against Communist mass murder when Saigon fell in 75 but was roundly abused for her attempts by other left wingers!

The point is- not everything from the Left is a lie- but they are selective in their outrage and faulty to the point of criminality in the conclusions they draw.

[itsahoot]

The children of Israel spent lots of time wandering out in the desert because of such an attitude.

Really? I thought it was because they were cowards. If you take a fresh look at the Bible story you will find that they were punished because they were afraid to attack the enemy.

[Burkeman1]

I usually encounter it among Jew-haters on the far left and far right (and Muslims, of course).

Ughh. How tired. Do you have your anti Mel Gibson, anti "Passion" movie posters made up yet?

[Burkeman1]

I wish Israel off US aid

Great! So do I. Then let Israel do what they want! And I don't care what they do in regards to Syria or the Palis. It isn't in our interest what happens in that region as long as we can buy oil (and even that is bogus as we could make that up with nuke plants and clean coal burning facilities).

[Burkeman1]

PS- how did Israel do in Lebanon? You have a lot of fantasies.

[VxH]

Jer 17:5-6

5 This is what the LORD says:

"Cursed is the one who trusts in man,
who depends on flesh for his strength
and whose heart turns away from the LORD.
6 He will be like a bush in the wastelands;
he will not see prosperity when it comes.
He will dwell in the parched places of the desert,
in a salt land where no one lives.


Ezek 20:13-17

13 "'Yet the people of Israel rebelled against me in the desert. They did not follow my decrees but rejected my laws-although the man who obeys them will live by them-and they utterly desecrated my Sabbaths. So I said I would pour out my wrath on them and destroy them in the desert. 14 But for the sake of my name I did what would keep it from being profaned in the eyes of the nations in whose sight I had brought them out. 15 Also with uplifted hand I swore to them in the desert that I would not bring them into the land I had given them-a land flowing with milk and honey, most beautiful of all lands- 16 because they rejected my laws and did not follow my decrees and desecrated my Sabbaths.

For their hearts were devoted to their idols.

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Pride and Arrogance.

[sheltonmac]

Wars are sometimes necessary however a wise policy is to avoid getting oneself into positions where they become more likely when there are other options. It is unwise to go out of one's way to make enemies where they need not exist. Conservative and libertarian critics of the the Iraq war do not specifically pick on this one occurrence or this one particular administration. They tend to see our foreign polices dating back to the Span Am War as unwise and motivated by reasons other than national defense. History shows how our interventions and meddling have not solve problems, rather they have been complicated. War begets more war.

Terrorism is the result of political problems. They can not be solved with the military. Pursuing war for economic gain, personal advancement or spreading ideology is a crime and a sin.

Well said.

[ohioman]

Whatever Mr. "I bench a volkswagen," please voice your anti-war crap in many a bar down South.

[billbears]

Whatever Mr. "I bench a volkswagen," please voice your anti-war crap in many a bar down South.

There's many a Southerner that sees through the ardent flag waving that would slap him on the back and buy him a beer. Contrary to the popular opinion I've seen of late, Southerners are patriotic but not blindly so.

[roses of sharon]

You are falling prey to the Cult of Islam's, "America made me do it", rational.

Terrorist groups thrive on your kind of thinking.

How else would they have gotten away with murder, and suicide bombing blackmail, for the last 30 years?

In no way is politics involved, if it were, Islam would now be civilized.

[ohioman]

You are right to a certain extent. But it (the South) is the most patriotic part of the country, and it is hated by the left for that.

[inquest]

The South is hated by the left (including certain people here on FR who love to say "hee-haw" alot in a very derisive manner) primarily because of its opposition to unbridled federal power.