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To: XHogPilot
No but he is preferable to socialists like Large Breasts. Hugh Hewitt's point is "my way or the highway" conservatives have let the Left rape this country because they placed ideological purity above doing the right thing for our country, even if it meant we couldn't get everything we wanted right away.
5 posted on 09/17/2003 2:25:25 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
Hugh Hewitt's point is "my way or the highway" conservatives have let the Left rape this country because they placed ideological purity above doing the right thing for our country, even if it meant we couldn't get everything we wanted right away.

Blame the defenders of conservative principles while heaping glory on the compromisers of it.

Such illogic is breathtaking in its boldness.

I'm in awe.

8 posted on 09/17/2003 2:39:31 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: goldstategop
No but he is preferable to socialists like Large Breasts. Hugh Hewitt's point is "my way or the highway" conservatives have let the Left rape this country because they placed ideological purity above doing the right thing for our country, even if it meant we couldn't get everything we wanted right away.

True .. but I doubt many will get what Hugh is getting at

69 posted on 09/17/2003 7:35:33 AM PDT by Mo1 (http://www.favewavs.com/wavs/cartoons/spdemocrats.wav)
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To: goldstategop
The question is, when do principles matter? At some point, one has to say "enough", I've compromised and compromised but received nothing in return. I will compromise no further.

That is where we are with the Arnold campaign. I have asked, now more than 20 emphatic Arnold supporters who post here on FR, for ONE conservative reason to vote FOR Arnold, other than as a vote against Cruz. I have not recieved one answer based on any facts. I attempt to debate those people with the facts, and never hear back.

So, to all Arnold supporters, including sell-outs like Hugh Hewitt, who are intersted in an "R" winning to help their careers, regardless of even one iota of conservative principle, stop crying when people with some principles refuse to sell-out. A compromise is one thing, but for conservatives to compromise their beliefs to vote for Arnold, Arnold has to offer nothing. Instead, Arnold has insulted conservatives and opposed each and every conservative position on any issue. Please explain why any conservative should vote for Arnold, with or without McClintock in the race?

Indeed, a thorough analysis of the situation, shows that an Arnold win would actually be worse for conservatives than any other outcome:

- Arnold wins:

-a message is sent to all CA republicans, and all national republicans, that moving way left of any conservative positions is ok with the base - thus the party moves further to the left than it already has.

- Arnold raises taxes (most likely based on his statements straight out of Pete Wilson's campaign textbook); Arnold raises spending (most likely based on his statements); Arnold supports homosexual rights of every sort; Arnold supports gun control; Arnold supports expanding benefits to illegal immigrants; Arnold passes more environmental regulation (most likely with Robert Kennedy Jr. as his advisor on environmental issues). Thus CA does not recover and the GOP is blamed and CA is controlled for the next 50 years by liberals.

Cruz wins:

- CA becomes so bad that people actually start to realize what a failure liberal/socialist policies are and conservatives begin winning more and more state elections.

There is much more downside in the long run to an Arnold victory. Most of the big-name "conservatives" have a stake in getting ANY "R" elected, as w/ access their radio shows, or consulting businesses, lobbying, etc. do better. Hugh Hewitt is simply put, a sell-out.

At some point principles do matter. Many Republicans have now shown that principles matter nothing to them, only the thought of winning. What next? Do we vote for Hillary? After all, Arnold's positions are almost exactly the same positions that Bill Clinton campaigned on. So what is the difference?
155 posted on 09/17/2003 9:40:50 AM PDT by brownie
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To: goldstategop
Bravo for your post #5........so very, very well and succinctly stated.

Thank you.

200 posted on 09/17/2003 10:54:21 AM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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