[Cacophonous]

I still say GHW Bush would have been re-elected had he not run the second worst campaign in the history of popular elections, Buchanan or no Buchanan, Perot or no Perot. GHW Bush lost the election; he didn't get beat.

The worst campaign ever? Bobdole, four years later. Thanks to the GOP for screwing conservatives and foisting those to yutzes on them.

[goldstategop]

And you would have conservatives go where, exactly? The reality is we're going to have to settle for getting what we can now and fighting another day for the rest.

[Theodore R.]

Another really bad GOP campaign was Dewey in 1948. He was picking potential Cabinet officers when he should have been challenging HST issue by issue.

[Consort]

GHW Bush lost the election; he didn't get beat.

He got beat by the Clinton Conservatives and the Democrats. Both groups didn't vote for Bush. It's the voters.

[gatorbait]

"I still say GHW Bush would have been re-elected had he not run the second worst campaign in the history of popular elections, Buchanan or no Buchanan, Perot or no Perot. GHW Bush lost the election; he didn't get beat. "

No ? Well then, let us return to the days of yesteryear when the Dims hit GHWB with Pat Buchannan's own rhetoric. Oh, don't want to fess up to that? I understand.John, it did not take at all long for the Buch ups to emerge for "their" boy, the Mercedes driver..