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Die-hards and the damage done: Hugh Hewitt likens McClintock recall race, Buchanan bid
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Wednesday, September 17, 2003 | Hugh Hewitt

Posted on 09/17/2003 1:44:36 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

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To: RonDog
LOL..

Nice comparative post, by the way.

Of course, Hugh had no substance on the issues at hand, as has become the norm. ;-)
201 posted on 09/17/2003 10:56:52 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Bush 41 lost in 1992 because he was a lousy president who ran a lousy campaign.
202 posted on 09/17/2003 11:01:36 AM PDT by ambrose
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To: BibChr
Can you imagine yourself in that situation and NEVER ONCE DEEPLY THINKING, "Hmmm... this smells fishy. What am I missing?"


I think you have this wrong dan.
I believe they are IN on it... and KNOW full well what they are doing, for the most part.

They have too much barely repressed glee at the thought of bringing down the president and the "evil america" that does not meet with their "new jersusalem" view of america. If they cannot make this the "new jerusalem" of their own choosing...to hell with the rest of us inthis "wicked" nation.

These are the same clowns who believe like Osami, that God took down those two towers to punish us for our materialism.

"No, edna, it wasn't God, it was illegal, immoral terrorists... who did it... and THEY work for the other team, not God."

They even spoke regarding God's judgement being the cause of 9-11, on THIS freerepublic website in the weeks immediately following 9-//. We had flame wars over all this stuff. At this point they would erupt again... because a lot of the formers are now "retreads".

We need to get these freaks out of the party and on their own, so they can enjoy the status that mouthy ELF types enjoy in their very own GREEN PARTY...

imo
203 posted on 09/17/2003 11:06:18 AM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert the rino...)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
You can stomp & shout all you want Luis. You can chastise, insult and appeal to party loyalty. You can Mau-mau & brownbeat until your blue in the face.

And afterwards there'll STILL be those who won't be compelled to vote for candidates who don't give a damn about whats important to THEM.

Weird, huh.

Never mind, I'm sure the GOP can make up those votes by moving leftward, as the party elite appears intent to do.

204 posted on 09/17/2003 11:16:28 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: skeeter
Brownbeat=browbeat.
205 posted on 09/17/2003 11:19:33 AM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Sabertooth
Something I learned a long time ago, winners of elections get to rule, those that don`t, don`t. Got to win first. As good as he is, McC will not be the GOC. Its going to Arno;d or Bustyourmoney. take your picj. Me, Arnold is much better.
206 posted on 09/17/2003 11:26:10 AM PDT by bybybill (first the public employees, next the fish and, finally, the children)
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To: bybybill
Something I learned a long time ago, winners of elections get to rule, those that don`t, don`t. Got to win first. As good as he is, McC will not be the GOC. Its going to Arno;d or Bustyourmoney. take your picj. Me, Arnold is much better.

Fine for you, not for me.

I won't reward Arnold Schwarzenegger with my vote so long as he continues to support the legalization for Illegal Aliens.

The "Arnold or Cruz," take it or leave it ploy isn't working. Schwarzenegger needs to go back to the drawing board to get the votes now leaning toward McClintock.


207 posted on 09/17/2003 11:34:59 AM PDT by Sabertooth (No Drivers' Licences for Illegal Aliens. Petition SB60. http://www.saveourlicense.com/n_home.htm)
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To: RonDog
When Hugh is good, he's very, very good.
208 posted on 09/17/2003 11:41:34 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Robert_Paulson2
We need to get these freaks out of the party and on their own, so they can enjoy the status that mouthy ELF types enjoy in their very own GREEN PARTY...

They're not Republicans despite their claims.

209 posted on 09/17/2003 11:45:11 AM PDT by onyx
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To: blackie; BibChr
McTicktocker's!

It's Bib Chr's invention, and I've merely hi-jacked it!
210 posted on 09/17/2003 11:49:49 AM PDT by onyx
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To: onyx
It's still funny. :)
211 posted on 09/17/2003 11:56:55 AM PDT by blackie
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To: blackie
It's even MORE funny!

(c;
212 posted on 09/17/2003 11:59:20 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: bybybill
If McClintock had a chance to win then the ideleological conservative argument would be more compelling, but every reasonable analysis of the polls and voter tendencies here in CA show that he cannot win this race. If it were close between the 2 then the ideological stand would make sense, but as a trailing, tertiary candidate all he can do is draw votes from a potential GOP winner.

That said, I think he should stay in the race until the end to keep the far right base energized and ready to vote as well as to inject as much conservative policy into the public discourse as possible. A late withdrawal will more likely aid Arnold than an early one. I for one believe he should withdraw, but not yet, the time is not right.

Tom Sullivan, local radio head and frequent sit-in for Rush, has opined that McClintock would make an excellent opponent for Boxer in the upcoming Senatorial election. His argument has swayed me. A CA conservative seldom wins an executive post, but even a Jr. Senator from CA has clout based on size and impact of the constituency. Then perhaps he can follow Wilson's path and come home at a later date if the Gov's chair is really his desire.

Personal Rant: I, for one, am tired of ideologues on both sides telling me what is and isn't ok to think. Conservatives have fallen into the same 'groupthink' mentality as the PC-Left:
If you are not an avid and public Right-to-Life advocate then you are not a true conservative...
If you believe in immigration, even reasonably regulated and enforced, then you are not a true conservative...
If you really don't care what other people do in their bedroom as long as it involves consenting adults - then you are not a true conservative....
If you believe that any (R) is better than any (D) in an election, so long as we win, then you are not a conservative...
This kind of thinking is someday going to break this party as badly, or worse, than it has the Dems ....

213 posted on 09/17/2003 11:59:21 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: doodlelady
It's just self-righteousness in drag...

You have SUCH a way with words ;-)

ROFLMA errr, sorry...BO

214 posted on 09/17/2003 12:03:12 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: BlueNgold
If McClintock had a chance to win then the ideleological conservative argument would be more compelling, but every reasonable analysis of the polls and voter tendencies here in CA show that he cannot win this race. If it were close between the 2 then the ideological stand would make sense, but as a trailing, tertiary candidate all he can do is draw votes from a potential GOP winner.

Whoops, sorry... no room for intelligent commentary in this discussion ;-)

Well stated!

215 posted on 09/17/2003 12:08:01 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: JohnHuang2
I thought I used to like Hugh Hewitt, but I changed my mind.

He is so focussed on how knowledgeable and clever he is that he forgot that without a successful recall everything that he keeps ranting about is irrelevant.

He is still arguing Arnold, while Davis keeps pumping money into repulsing the recall, successfuly.

What an idiot! Keep fueling the infighting, Hugh; Bustamante lover!

216 posted on 09/17/2003 12:17:36 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: RonDog
Whether he was a champion of "core values" back in 2001 or not, he's a sell-out now.

I don't see how any conservative in good conscience can support an extreme liberal over a rock-solid conservative.

The longer this goes on, the more I am convinced that the Arnold camp supports a different team, and not the pro-conservative, pro-Constitution, anti-corruption team that made FR a success.

Hugh Hewitt, as far as I am concerned, is nothing more than another Trojan horse of socialism.

The FR I joined would have thoroughly rejected any candidate who was pro-gay, pro-abortion, anti-2nd Amendment, and cordial to the possibility of raising taxes.
217 posted on 09/17/2003 12:34:00 PM PDT by thoughtomator (It's time for Arnold supporters to go to a LIBERAL/LEFTIST website where they belong)
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To: thoughtomator
The FR I joined would have thoroughly rejected any candidate who was pro-gay, pro-abortion, anti-2nd Amendment, and cordial to the possibility of raising taxes.

And one who professed to be "ashamed to be a republican" during FR's finest hour, the Clinton impeachment.

218 posted on 09/17/2003 12:44:31 PM PDT by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: Sabertooth
The illegal flow must be stopped before any actions will be effective on this side of the border. Arnold said he will work with other border states to pressure the federal government to stop illegal bordercrossings.

Arnold is, also, not afraid to state the truth. The illegals are here, period. Stopping the flow can only be done by the feds. States are forbidden to hunt for illegals or pass laws to remove them from the country. The National Guard at the border is another false hope McClintock tries to promote.

To regain some sembelence of order, the illegals here must be documented. Then they must be required to follow the laws of our state and be accountable for their actions. The state does have the power to enforce state laws over illegals but we have to know who and where they are. It is easy to deport foreigners who break state laws.

What's Tom's plan to solve the problem?

He will send 187 back to court. Great, back to the feds who created the problem to begin with and have already struck down the proposition. His wishful thinking and the opinion of his part time attorney will not overturn the existing federal court ruling and negotiated settlement. In the meantime, the illegal subculture multiplies and runs wild....undocumented and unaccountable.

219 posted on 09/17/2003 12:46:56 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Sabertooth
Question for you since you have all the answers: Will California be a better place to live in 4 years if Arnold wins or if your guy, Bustthebudget , wins?
220 posted on 09/17/2003 12:52:16 PM PDT by bybybill (first the public employees, next the fish and, finally, the children)
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