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Evidence from bay prompts speculation in Peterson case
The Modesto Bee ^ | Sept 16, 2003 | Garth Stapely and John Cote'

Posted on 09/16/2003 5:56:44 AM PDT by runningbear

Evidence from bay prompts speculation in Peterson case

Evidence from bay prompts speculation in Peterson case

By GARTH STAPLEY and JOHN COTÉ
BEE STAFF WRITERS

Published: September 16, 2003, 05:35:14 AM PDT

When authorities recovered Laci Peterson's remains on the shore of San Francisco Bay, they also found tape and clear plastic sheeting nearby.

The significance is unknown, given a court-imposed gag order on the double-murder case that prevents either side from discussing evidence.

But that hasn't prevented a host of theories from pundits, observers and experts on what the plastic may or may not mean. There appear to be equal numbers of scenarios presented that support the prosecution's contention that Scott Peterson murdered his pregnant wife and their unborn son, Conner, or that the Modesto man is innocent of the charges.

Connecting the plastic to Scott Peterson could bolster the prosecution's claim that he killed his wife on Dec. 23 or 24, when she was about eight months pregnant, and dumped her body in the bay.

But others argue that a link to Conner could cast doubt on that charge by suggesting that the boy was born before he was killed. Scott Peterson presumably wouldn't have had the opportunity to commit that murder because he came under heavy police surveillance soon after Laci Peterson was reported missing Christmas Eve.

A sizable bundle of the distinctive clear plastic with what appeared to be a length of black electrical tape attached to it was recovered 50 yards from Laci Peterson's remains and was forensically analyzed, according to a source. Results of those tests are not known.

A separate length of black plastic similar to roofing material also was found about 50 yards from the body. The objects appear to be among at least 31 items the defense has asked to examine after they were recovered from the East Bay and logged as potential evidence.

Conner's body was recovered with a thin circle of plastic tape wrapped 1 1/2 times around his neck, extending in another loop that resembles a bow knot.

A theory benefiting Scott Peterson's defense considers that as evidence of someone else's involvement, while others have speculated that the body became entangled in ocean debris.

Walkers found Laci Peterson's badly decomposed torso and lower body April 14 among the rocks at Point Isabel Regional Shoreline south of Richmond. The body was missing its head, feet and hands. The baby's relatively well-preserved body had been found the day before just more than a mile north in marshy grassland, about 15 feet inland from the shoreline, officials said.

A body in plastic would be expected to decompose slower than one exposed to the elements, said Harry J. Bonnell, a San Diego forensic pathologist.

State of body prompts theories

But there are several other reasons that the body of a woman would deteriorate faster if neither was wrapped in plastic, Bonnell said. They include:

Adult stomachs contain bacteria, "a large element in decomposition," Bonnell said, while the stomachs of fetuses do not.

Cold water preserves small bodies better. Adults have more fat, which keeps bodies warmer, allowing bacteria to break down tissues.

Predators like crabs and fish would be expected to seek large food sources first.

The plastic sheeting and plastic material around Conner's neck "may be just normal garbage in the bay," Bonnell said.

Other experts have speculated that the boy was expelled from the womb when the mother's body sufficiently decomposed. He would have been partially protected from predators while in her body.

The wad of clear plastic found near Laci Peterson's remains sports a logo for Target Products Ltd., a Canada-based company that manufactures items such as concrete, grout and stucco for use in building, mining and golf industries.

The polyethylene sheeting appears consistent with plastic commonly used to cover items on pallets.

Target has retail outlets in Sacramento, San ........

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Is cult linked to Peterson killings?


In this May 21, 1990, file photo, Janice Keson reacts to the news of her daughter's death in Salida. BART AH YOU/THE BEE


Then-Deputy District Attorney James Brazelton, left, watches as defendants David Beck, Ronald Willey, Gerald Cruz, Michelle Lee Evans and Ricky Vieira are arraigned in connection with the Salida murders on May 24, 1990. BART AH YOU/THE BEE

Is cult linked to Peterson killings?

By GARTH STAPLEY
BEE STAFF WRITER

Published: September 14, 2003, 07:39:03 AM PDT

Before Scott and Laci Peterson, Stanislaus County had the Salida massacre.

Both cases have been colored with questions of ritualistic murder by Satan worshippers. Some are debating if the current high-profile proceeding could have a connection to the 1990 slaughter of four people in Salida.

Scott Peterson's legal team six weeks ago laid out a strategy relying on the theory that his wife, Laci Peterson, may have been kidnapped in Modesto and slain by Satan worshippers. She was eight months pregnant with a son, Conner, when she disappeared at Christmastime.

Sources close to the case say that in June, Peterson's defense team acquired a coat worn by a Modesto resident allegedly affiliated with an occult group. The man bragged about being involved in Laci Peterson's death, a source said.

The defense submitted the trenchcoat-type jacket for forensic analysis. The jacket bore an Oakland Raiders logo, had a downward rip from one side pocket, and had been torn and sewn in other places.

Also, authorities are consulting with Randy Cerny, a local expert on ritualistic crimes whom they directed not to speak to the media because he may testify in Peterson's proceedings, he said. Cerny had testified in the Salida killers' cases.

TV personalities such as talk show host Larry King and NBC reporter Dan Abrams have discussed a seeming similarity between the Peterson case and the one that shined regional attention on Salida in the early 1990s. The Salida case ended with three defendants on death row and two others with life sentences.

One survivor and two former cult members not involved in that massacre -- all three admittedly scarred by the butchery -- aren't willing to rule out a possible connection.

Some lawyers involved in the Salida case, however, and other experts scoff at the notion. They chalk it up to a trial balloon floated by Peterson's defense camp.

Observers may find out next month whether his attorneys will raise the issue in court. A preliminary hearing is scheduled to begin Oct. 20.

However, such proceedings typically focus on the prosecution's evidence. Defense strategy often doesn't become apparent until the actual trial, which might be a year or more away.

Peterson has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder in the deaths of his wife and unborn son. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.

Deaths in Salida

Locals were horrified 13 years ago at the gruesome details of the Salida murders, committed by a paramilitary cult whose charismatic and sadistic leader had a deep interest in the occult.

"It was very serious, not just dabbled in," said former group member Angela Young of their unconventional worship. She broke away from the group before the murders, but her younger brother, Ricky Vieira, stayed and was sentenced to death.

Leader Gerald Cruz manipulated group members through bizarre activities that included indoctrination into various forms of the occult, sleep deprivation and brainwashing. At his direction, witnesses said, some members beat, raped and tortured each other.

Cruz eventually led his followers from their living compound in Salida to a nearby duplex where they bashed and slashed the occupants to death with baseball bats and knives. At least some of the victims were disassociated members of Cruz's circle.

Killed were Darlene Paris, 23, Frank Raper, 51, Dennis Colwell, 35, and Richard T. Ritchey, 25.

James Brazelton, a deputy district attorney at the time, steered the prosecution. A few years later, he became district attorney and now oversees the Peterson case, although his senior prosecutors are handling courtroom proceedings.

Sentenced to death in the Salida case were Cruz, now 41; his "enforcer," David Beck, 47; and Vieira, 34. Jason LaMarsh, 36, and Ronald Willey, 37, received prison sentences of 64 years to life. All remain under appeal.

A cult or just bizarre?

Their trials were sprinkled with testimony on the occult, including blood-letting rituals and black magic.

But many details were excluded from parts of the proceedings, sometimes because Brazelton protested, sometimes at the request of Cruz's lawyer.

In a recent interview, Brazelton said, "There was no evidence of any cult or rituals, though the defense tried to make it seem that way."

Cruz's Van Nuys lawyer, Seymour Amster, agreed, saying, "It didn't come out (in court) because it wasn't a cult murder in any sense, in my opinion."

Lawyers for Cruz's followers recalled things differently.

Ramon Magana of Modesto, who represented LaMarsh, remembers stories of rituals under the full moon at midnight along the Stanislaus River. Diaries and letters by group members made reference to desecrating graves, forced sodomy and beatings for disobedience, and even murder, Magana said, calling the writings "chilling."

"My recollection is that Brazelton wanted to focus only on the (Salida slayings) themselves," Magana said. "If the case got cluttered up with anything else, it might hurt his case."

Amster fought to exclude evidence of the occult from much of the proceedings, arguing that the group's worship was irrelevant to the quadruple murder.

Rituals, writings and sacrifice

Modesto attorney William Arthur Miller, who represented Willey, recalled many of the same things as Magana, plus allegations of animal sacrifice. He said group members listened to heavy metal music just before the murders, and remembered talk of group members dancing at one point, as if in a ritual............

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Peterson charges mirror '81 trial


Stockton attorney Douglas Jacobsen represented Jerry Bunyard in a 1981 trial when he faced charges of paying a friend to murder his wife and unborn child in 1979. Bunyard was the first person sent to death row under the state's fetal murder law. BART AH YOU/THE BEE

Peterson charges mirror '81 trial

By GARTH STAPLEY
Murray refrained from commenting on the Bunyard case

Published: September 13, 2003, 06:16:00 AM PDT

His wife was pregnant with their first baby, and he was having an affair. He killed her, and their unborn child. Jurors sent the unrepentant, 30-year-old husband to death row in what eventually was recognized as California's first test case of its fetal murder law.

Twenty-two years later, prosecutors are using the same law to seek the death penalty for Modesto's Scott Peterson, 30, if he is convicted in the slayings of his pregnant wife, Laci, and their unborn son, Conner.

People vs. Bunyard generated little media interest when that grisly 1981 case was tried in Stockton.

"It's unfair to those who don't get the publicity," said Douglas Jacobsen, a Stockton attorney who represented Jerry Bunyard then. "It's like they're less worthy or something."

Bunyard's wife of three years, Elaine, a nurse's aide in Manteca, was days shy of delivering their baby girl in 1979. In anticipation of a stay in the maternity ward, she had packed a bag and kept it by the front door.

But Jerry Bunyard wasn't as excited. The good-looking, well- spoken carpenter had been carrying on with a Tracy woman and thought his wife would "take him for everything he had" if he divorced her, a witness said.

Enter Earlin Popham, a biker-type boyhood friend who had been helping the Bunyards build a home in Patterson. When Elaine Bunyard was alone in the kitchen, Popham broke an iron skillet on her skull. He then shot her in the head with a shotgun and tried to make the crime look like both a robbery and a suicide.

Popham later testified that his buddy had promised him $1,000 to kill Elaine Bunyard. Popham received a sentence of 25 years to life in exchange for his testimony against Bunyard.

California law requires special circumstances for a death sentence. They include multiple murder and murder for hire.

Murder-for-hire prosecution parameters still were evolving, so Stockton prosecutors chose to go after Bunyard for multiple murder. A 1970 law -- which resulted from the prosecution of a Stockton man who had killed his ex-wife's fetus -- makes no differentiation between children who are born and those who aren't.

Jacobsen doesn't recall any significance attached to the Bunyard trial as a test case for the fetal murder law. He does recall that prosecutors played up evidence that Elaine Bunyard struggled mightily against her attacker, as if "fighting to stay alive for her unborn child."

William Murray, who prosecuted the case, now is a San Joaquin County Superior Court judge and recently was appointed to the prestigious California Judicial Council.

Murray refrained from commenting on the Bunyard case, citing its pending status before the Supreme Court. Death sentences are considered on appeal until carried out.

The case was among the first the California Supreme Court considered under the fetal murder law. In a 1988 appellate ruling, Justice John Arguelles cited "the unique relationship between a pregnant woman and her unborn fetus" in rejecting Bunyard's claim that no one intended to kill the unborn child.

Arguelles cited "the Legislature's determination that viable fetuses receive the same protection under the murder statute."

Bunyard also had claimed that a death sentence for killing an unborn child was tantamount to cruel and unusual punishment, noting that at the time, only four states allowed death for such a crime. The state Supreme Court rejected those contentions as well.

The same court since has upheld similar sentences, including the 1984 Halloween slayings of a San Jose woman and her unborn child by her former husband..........

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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
It makes me wonder how a little button-down boy like Scott could be hanging out with these thugs--even going to motel rooms--and not end up dead HIMSELF.

No one in their right mind would go to some motel room to meet such people, would they? He must really have been living a "Sopranos" fantasy! Wonder if he was armed when he went? You know, we've heard almost nothing about gun ownership by Scott. I mean, he must have had hunting rifles, but we've never heard whether he ever owned a pistol.

I am having a problem with the fact that Carroll allegedly says they met on Nov. 29. That was the day after Thanksgiving. It seems to me that Scott could easily have an alibi for that day.
161 posted on 09/21/2003 10:26:30 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: RGSpincich
Scott to Amber - "I didn't do it but I know who did..." Takes on a different meaning now.

No kidding...

162 posted on 09/21/2003 10:28:15 AM PDT by CheneyChick (Kah-lee-fohr-nyah)
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To: Spunky
I'm also wondering about the fact that Carroll says Scott met with the thugs on Nov. 29 in Fresno. That was the day after Thanksgiving. I would imagine that Scott's whereabouts would be easily traceable for that day, if Scott was actually with family that day.

Janie Peterson says Scott and Laci drove back to Modesto from San Diego on that day. Don't know about later on the night of Nov. 29. Wouldn't you know, it looks like Laci would be the only one who could answer the question of whether Scott was home that night, or out and about.

Well.... Scott SAID he "talks to Laci". (In his note thanking the early searchers.) Let's get him to ask her!
163 posted on 09/21/2003 10:30:12 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
November 29 is a little troublesome for me too, Anse. Let's see what it's changed to, or if it will be changed.
164 posted on 09/21/2003 10:32:18 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: drjulie
That's right. And I've heard the drive from San Diego to Modesto described as being various lengths of time--but I've never heard it described as SEVEN hours.

Scott could have told Laci this or that--or their relationship could have already been deteriorated to the point to where he just drove off w/o saying anything. People who are quarrelling do that sometimes, especially men!
165 posted on 09/21/2003 10:33:38 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: CheneyChick
"Has someone done a timeline on all this stuff? When Amber claims she first met Scott, the Thanksgiving holiday, this new twist, etc. It would be interesting to look at. From the time Scotty met Amber, things moved extremely quickly...."

Yes this is interesting and I do believe he was obsessed with Amber. However, I don't think Amber was the single motivation for what he did. One important clue to this kind of crime is the degree to which it appears the husband is moving on with his life even before the death occurs. Clearly, after her death he continued to "move on" at a rate that made his behavior appear very odd. After the loss of a spouse most people eventually move on and do things like sell a house or car, have fun, etc. but it usually takes a long time. They tend to hang on to all of the spouses possessions and can't imagine dating or remarrying right away, etc. I believe he made this decision sometime after she became pregnant - June or July?
166 posted on 09/21/2003 10:34:11 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: All
So it's 455 miles from San Diego to Modesto?

A long drive, for sure.

Could Carroll have mistaken the date? Could it have been Saturday, Nov.30? Could Scott and Laci have gotten a mid-morning start from San Diego? Or is this just more made-up b.s.?
167 posted on 09/21/2003 10:37:33 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: drjulie
Excellent point. Perhaps he had vague thoughts even earlier, but the pregnancy was the clincher.
168 posted on 09/21/2003 10:38:18 AM PDT by jerseygirl
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To: CheneyChick
Let's see: He met Amber on Nov. 20. He allegedly met with the thugs on Nov. 29. He was not at home on Dec. 14 when Laci's friends had a baby shower for her. He went to a party with Amber... when was that party, the one where the pictures were taken? It wasn't very long b/f Laci disappeared, that I remember.

He was at the hair salon with Laci on Dec. 23, in the early evening. He somehow got a parking card for the Berkeley Marina, and the card had the date of Dec. 24. He arrived back from his "fishing trip" at about 4-something on the afternoon of Dec. 24. The last time anyone other than Scott KNEW Laci was in the land of the living was at 8 p.m. on Dec. 23.
169 posted on 09/21/2003 10:42:18 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: All
Looks like there's a new thread. :)
170 posted on 09/21/2003 10:53:26 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: Devil_Anse
Another question: did Carroll meet with SP on two occasions? Somehow I gathered that he first met Carroll and Carroll set up a meeting later with Dirty and Skeeter. Or did they all just happen to be close by and the whole scenario happened on the 29th. Am I making sense?
171 posted on 09/21/2003 11:12:04 AM PDT by Sandylapper
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To: Devil_Anse
Lee's statement puts SP back in Modesto at around 6 p.m. (or later). This would give him plenty of time to drive to Fresno for the alleged meetings, plus hook up later with Amber, possibly at her apartment.

EXCERPT

http://www.fresnobee.com/local/story/7479754p-8396215c.html

Father denies Peterson neo-Nazi talk
Scott, Laci were leaving San Diego area, he says.
Bee News Services
(Published Sunday, September 21, 2003, 5:46 AM)

A Fresno County Jail inmate is wrong about Scott Peterson meeting Nov. 29 in Fresno with neo-Nazi gang members to talk about kidnapping Peterson's wife, says Peterson's father, Lee.
It could not have happened, Lee Peterson said Saturday, because his son -- accompanied by his wife, Laci -- drove from San Diego County to their Modesto home on Nov. 29, the day after Thanksgiving. The couple spent the holiday with the Peterson family in Solana Beach, Lee Peterson said, and left for home at noon Nov. 29. The car trip normally takes six or more hours.
(snip)
172 posted on 09/21/2003 11:15:22 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Jackie-O
Thanks for the Geraldo news, I went and watched when you first posted about it last night. Very interesting...
173 posted on 09/21/2003 11:23:58 AM PDT by hergus
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To: Devil_Anse; All
I'm guessing that Janey Peterson's defense of SP can easily be proven wrong. I'm sure the detectives already have copies of gas purchases from San Diego to Modesto and probably a receipt from the Chili's restaraunt as well. I'll bet you your bottom dollar that SP charged the Chili's meeting on his "company" credit card as a "business meeting".....
174 posted on 09/21/2003 11:33:14 AM PDT by Velveeta
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To: hergus
You have freepmail! ;0)
175 posted on 09/21/2003 11:41:51 AM PDT by Jackie-O
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To: Velveeta
Great point - I'm sure there are alot of interesting charges on the business card. I bet they could track him will cell phone records, too!
176 posted on 09/21/2003 11:42:59 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: All
The post office box....does anyone remember that SP got a post office box around Dec. 23rd or 24th? It caused a bit of a buzz for awhile but I could never really figure out why he did this, other than he wanted a place for Amber to send his gift. Maybe "Dirty" and "Skeeter" were going to get a key to said box after they performed their services. Mind you I don't know much about how such things work but I would guess that you can't just tell hit men to stop by your house to pick up their check. Just a thought.
177 posted on 09/21/2003 11:47:14 AM PDT by drjulie
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To: Spunky; All
On Geraldo last night Carrol's attorney described the van several times as a camper back with a van front. That doesn't match the brown van's we've heard mentioned either.

The funny thing is either Geragos has heard this story from Scott and is using some of the elements to stir up doubt, or Carroll has been reading a lot of the coverage on the case.

What has he said that wasn't in the public domain already?
178 posted on 09/21/2003 12:16:46 PM PDT by hergus
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To: Devil_Anse
About Scott's guns:

"Guns Seized During Peterson Search
July 14, 2003

"When police searched the home of Scott Peterson....they seized shotguns and a handgun, according to a report Friday in the Modesto Bee...Lee Peterson, made the revelation in an interview with the paper..."Police have Scott's guns," he told the paper. "He had some bird guns and a handgun...."

It was not known when the authorities seized the weapons. Modesto police staged two extensive searches of the Peterson home -- once shortly after Laci's Christmas Eve disappearance and then on Feb. 18-19...."

http://www.ktvu.com/news/2326330/detail.html
179 posted on 09/21/2003 12:21:50 PM PDT by hergus
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To: Jackie-O
Got it and replied! Thanks
180 posted on 09/21/2003 12:26:25 PM PDT by hergus
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