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Didn't find this in a pretty careful search by headline just now.
1 posted on 09/15/2003 10:01:34 PM PDT by pogo101
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"I think a lot of Republicans understand that if Schwarzenegger loses the election on October 7 that the Republican Party in California is going to be entering the dark ages for the next decade,"

Shout it from the rooftops, brothers and sisters.

VOTE TO SAVE CALIFORNIA - VOTE SCHWARZENEGGER

2 posted on 09/15/2003 10:04:49 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: pogo101
Well, I'm a McClintock supporter, but this reporter is spot on in terms of her analysis of the mood of the convention.
4 posted on 09/15/2003 10:11:58 PM PDT by ambrose (The Rats Have Done It Again!)
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It seems so superficial to pre-judge McClintock as just another Simon. They're two distinct individuals with different personalities and different levels of experience in government and on the campaign trail.

If these guys are not starstruck then they will have taken the opportunity to draw Arnold aside and make sure he is what he says, and get specifics (which do not necessarily have to be transmitted to the masses or media, at least in some kind of explicit manner). It seems as if a large subset of problems could be resolved by doing that. I wonder if anyone at the convention attempted to do that? If not, it seems as if conservatives are justified in regarding Arnold with suspicion. Just imho.

6 posted on 09/15/2003 10:13:00 PM PDT by SteveH ((Can't we all just GET ALONG!?! ;-))
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Thanks. I was gonna post this early this morning, but you know me, I didn't want to upset any of the natives in our happy little forum we all call home ;-)
8 posted on 09/15/2003 10:13:40 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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ping!
9 posted on 09/15/2003 10:16:25 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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Good article. Thanks for posting it.

People need to take this to heart:

"I think a lot of Republicans understand that if Schwarzenegger loses the election on October 7 that the Republican Party in California is going to be entering the dark ages for the next decade," he said. "If people think things are bad now for Republicans, wait until an unsuccessful October 7."

14 posted on 09/15/2003 10:25:38 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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Pick a point, huh? You're a good fellow!

Even some of the party's staunchest social conservatives said they were willing to toss fellow believer Tom McClintock over the side for Schwarzenegger, reasoning that money and star appeal trump social ideology and experience.

This is why I'm speculating that the clique that is so adamant, is not amoung the 'staunchest social conservatives'. They are *%'er's.

TRUMP IDEOLOGY - VOTE SCHWARZENEGGER

15 posted on 09/15/2003 10:25:56 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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Another;

McClintock, who proudly points out that he has voted for just five of the 17 state budgets he has encountered (the last one he liked was during the Deukmejian administration), argued forcefully that this is no time to put an amateur in charge of state budgeting.

I'm sure he could be of genuine assistance to Govenor Schwarzenegger.

VOTE LEADERSHIP - VOTE SCHWARZENEGGER

18 posted on 09/15/2003 10:32:11 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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"They're star-struck," complained Danney Ball, a candidate for U.S. Senate who enviously wondered how much money Schwarzenegger's campaign must have spent on the bleachers, press risers and crowd control measures for the rally.

Yes, they are! Its great!

VOTE FOR THE PEOPLE - VOTE FOR SCHWARZENEGGER

21 posted on 09/15/2003 10:34:40 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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"Government's not rocket science, to be real blunt," Haynes said. "It doesn't take a whole lot of time to figure out what's going on."

What's going on? The payoff, the backroom deals, the political insider trading. Nah, it doesn't take rocket science. Good thing Arnie doesn't really need any payoffs. Maybe he can go in there and clean house. Kick ass and take names. Start the swell that we need to take it back!

VOTE INTEGRITY - VOTE SCHWARZENEGGER

27 posted on 09/15/2003 10:38:46 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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I also think that it's very naive to think that it's naive to think that a win here will make the problems of the CAGOP go away. The problems run deeper than that. Whatever happens in this election, the CAGOP needs a complete change.
35 posted on 09/15/2003 11:19:36 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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Schwarzenegger Increasingly Seen by GOP as Party's Best Bet

Yeah...that's what the Liberal Press keeps telling me. They've anointed Ahnold. I havn't. I want a Conservative in office.
43 posted on 09/15/2003 11:40:55 PM PDT by ETERNAL WARMING
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46 posted on 09/15/2003 11:42:42 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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50 posted on 09/16/2003 12:06:07 AM PDT by autoresponder (PETA TERRORISTS .wav file: BRUCE FRIEDRICH: http://tinyurl.com/hjhd)
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Billy Jack seems to not like Arnold.
57 posted on 09/16/2003 1:25:06 AM PDT by Captain Shady (I could be wrong ,but I don't think so. Its a jungle out there.)
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"Tom is a friend of mine, but Tom is not a consensus-builder," he said.

Which means he can't lead. He'll make a damn good bean counter in a LEADER'S administration.

Gore: Policy Wonk - Bush: LEADER. Carter: Detail Man - Reagan: LEADER

59 posted on 09/16/2003 2:23:27 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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( to the tune of "Both Sides Now")

Dreams and schemes
and feelin' proud
to say "GO ARNIE" right out loud!

He's got a solid chance to WIN...
It's clearer every day.

I've looked at crowds from both sides now,
from Tom and Arnold...
still somehow,
It's Tom's delusions of Recall...
He really can't woo crowds a . t ....a . l . l
60 posted on 09/16/2003 2:57:47 AM PDT by b9
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To: pogo101; Tamsey; My2Cents; EggsAckley; redlipstick; South40; CheneyChick; FairOpinion
You know, here's something I haven't seen discussed yet. Look at this, then my comment:

Though Riordan was widely considered the more electable of the two, he had consorted politically with Democrats for years, and Simon sided with the party's conservative activists on social issues. Their pick won the nomination only to lose the general election to Gov. Gray Davis.

You know, as I do, that THE commonly-held view is that Simon lost because he was too conservative. Myself, I don't believe that at all. I think he lost because he (A) took (B) TERRIBLE advice. He ran a BAD campaign, the media was all over him, and he was unprepared to respond.

But that's not the point.

The point is that MOST people THINK he lost because he was too conservative. Simon's disastrous campaign was a setback for conservatism in California.

So now McC is running a divisive, petty campaign against the Republican frontrunner. He's losing, and trying to take Schwarzenegger with him. If he were to overtake Schwarzenegger (never happen in this election) he would lose. It would be said (wrongly) that this is because a conservative could never win in California. If McC stays in and siphons off enough votes to elect Bustamante, it will be said that this is because he was too conservative, and conservatives are too selfish and divisive to work together and win office.

Either way, McClintock is BAD for conservatism.

Dan

68 posted on 09/16/2003 6:53:47 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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The party's best bet? Yes.

But definitely not the best bet for conservatism.

72 posted on 09/16/2003 7:36:53 AM PDT by Petronski (Calm down. Eat some fruit or something.)
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McClintock, who proudly points out that he has voted for just five of the 17 state budgets he has encountered

So, even the balanced ones he's voted against?

93 posted on 09/16/2003 10:08:56 AM PDT by My2Cents ("I'm the party pooper..." -- Arnold in "Kindergarten Cop.")
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