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To: boomop1
They old when I flew them in the 60s and 70s the KC-135A would eat over a mile of runway by the time we lifted off heavy weight.

That's a little better with the -Es and much better with the -Rs. The main benefit of the -Es (which are just -As re-engined with JT3Ds (military designation is a TF33 varient) taken off of old 707 airliners, is decreased fuel burn, which translates into increased range and/or increased fuel offload. The -Rs are more extensively modified, but part of that was re-engining with CFM56 (military designation F108) which gives the same benefits as for the -Es, but much more so. They can also take off at higher weights and/or use less runway.

15 posted on 09/15/2003 6:56:44 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: El Gato; boomop1
Thanks for your service, guys. Gato's right about the massive improvement. On my first TDY, I rode a Q model down to Puerto Rico from Plattsburgh; by the next time I flew I had been moved over to the crew of an R model, and there was just a world of difference. Of course, I knew there would be just from working the ground crew, but even so, I was surprised at just how good the R model was. And so much quieter.

When I flew I always kept my phones plugged into the crew net. When we were landing the Q model at Puerto Rico, I was in the boom pod and about 3-5 seconds before touchdown, the nav calls out, "Abort! Abort!" Every sphincter on my body tightened, and one of the only coherent thoughts that went through my head was, "Where are we going to get the power from?" Fortunately, the first thing I heard after a near perfect touchdown was the AC asking the nav some pointed questions, strating with, "Um, why in the world did you just do that?" Seems the nav had misjudged our angle. We left PR six hours later, and I think his face was still red, poor guy.

I really miss the Air Force some days. There's just nothing like being part of military aviation. Even the near heart attacks are worth it. :-)

22 posted on 09/16/2003 10:42:26 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Formerly the Asst.Crew Chief of the KC-135R "Spirit of Plattsburgh")
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To: El Gato
Yep I have always kept up on the refinement of this old war bird, nothing beats 6 hours of low approaches and touch and goes, yuk pilot please do a taxi back and let me off, not.
23 posted on 09/16/2003 11:06:31 AM PDT by boomop1
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