[ChemistCat]

I saw this story yesterday. I'm not a reflexive homophobe as so many FReepers are (some with good reason, some apparently just out of joy that there is one group remaining they can hate without guilt.) Mostly I am very glad I don't have that particular temptation; mine are enough to cope with. Can I throw stones? Have I done so much better? Don't know, can't guess; hope so, but doubt so. If someone is gay and makes a stable family, maybe they are doing the best they can, spiritually and morally. I find promiscuous gay lifestyles far, far more offensive...but worse than promiscuous straight ones? No, not much. And from the proliferation of internet porn it is obvious that gays really don't have straights beat in the perversion department.

I wish these two men well and hope they are good parents. Certainly most straight parents don't seem to get it right any more, and many get it so horribly wrong. It seems that they are starting with one terrible handicap that will make everything harder--mostly on the kid, not them.

[bitcon]

They can't be good parents. Every child needs a mother and a father and without that the child is being deprived of what is natural and normal.

[Texas Eagle]

I saw this story yesterday. I'm not a reflexive homophobe as so many FReepers are

What kind of homophobe are you? A high-horse homophobe?

(some with good reason, some apparently just out of joy that there is one group remaining they can hate without guilt.)

Apparently it's okay to hate homophobes with a clear conscience so there are at least two groups out there that it's okay to hate.

Mostly I am very glad I don't have that particular temptation;

Mmm-hmm.

mine are enough to cope with.

You ever thought about exercising SELF-CONTROL?

Can I throw stones?

Yes. As long as you don't throw like a girl.

Have I done so much better? Don't know, can't guess; hope so, but doubt so.

Well, there's one way to find out. Let a lesbian couple adopt one of your daughters and then see how they each turn out 20 years from now.

If someone is gay and makes a stable family, maybe they are doing the best they can, spiritually and morally.

On the other hand, maybe you're just too chicken to stand up for what's right.

I find promiscuous gay lifestyles far, far more offensive...but worse than promiscuous straight ones? No, not much. And from the proliferation of internet porn it is obvious that gays really don't have straights beat in the perversion department.

At least you recognize that people who engage in homosexual acts are perverted. Or do you? You seem to go both ways.

I wish these two men well and hope they are good parents.

It's not about the men. It's about the kid.

Certainly most straight parents don't seem to get it right any more, and many get it so horribly wrong.

Yeah? But then, you wouldn't want to push your definition of what's "right" on others would you?

It seems that they are starting with one terrible handicap that will make everything harder--mostly on the kid, not them.

FINALLY! A tiny pinhole of light getting through that muddled brainwashed head of yours.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

...I'm not a reflexive homophobe as so many FReepers are (some with good reason, some apparently just out of joy that there is one group remaining they can hate without guilt.).....

If only you could be as assertively judgmental of the war on our culture, as you are on your fellow Freepers, amigo. It's no wonder we've sunk to where we are today when even conservatives are too tolerant (in the full, PC sense of the word) to say 'enough!'

[Paul Atreides]

I saw this story yesterday. I'm not a reflexive homophobe as so many FReepers are (some with good reason, some apparently just out of joy that there is one group remaining they can hate without guilt.)

Your perfection knows no bounds, does it?

[F.J. Mitchell]

Just for the record, Kittycat-rejecting the premise that homosexuals are born that way and cannot change their perversion or resist the cravings thereof, does not make us homophobes or haters of homosexuals. In reality we are the best hope these people have. Their worst enemnies, are the self righteous creatures who cater to their weaknesses and delusions and by doing so, deny them any hope of escape from their self designed hell on earth. Loving friends offer hope for the seemingly hopeless and never give up and write them off as a lost cause.

Medical Science has never given up on the other mental and physical conditions that bedevil mortals and have found cures or treatment for conditions that by comparison were far more hopeless than the sickness that ails homosexuals. If we had given up on Polio, humanity would not be concerned about over populating the earth, but finding un-paralized care givers among the smidgen of humanity that remained. Just because the disease of homosexuality feels estactically good to many of those afflicted, does not make it any less an illness, nor an incurable malady that cannot be fixed.

When homosexuality has been eradicated from the earth by healing the sufferers thereof, they will owe a debt of gratitude to us who are called homophobes and an apology from the ilk of yourself Mr. Kitty.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

Some straight parents may "get it so horribly wrong," but ALL gay parents are raising a child in an unhealthy, immoral and destructive environment.

Gay adoption is child abuse, sanctioned by the state.