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To: Ukiapah Heep
If we insist that every american wraps their arms, legs and torso in bubble wrap before getting into a vehicle, we will save lives on the road.

We can also make all pedestrians wear reflective body suits. There will be countless lives saved.

I think A. Pole's point, is that are 3,000 lives enough to give up our liberty? What is the magic number? What if the towers didn't fall and everybody on the non hit floors got out? Just say 300 people died. Would that be worth giving up our bill of rights?

I just want a number. What number of deaths equals absolving the first 10 amendments to the constitution? I want to know what this number is, so I can leave the next time a terrorist attack kills 50 people, and they decide that the second amendment is less important than "protecting us".

About 1 in 100,000 americans died on 9/11. It was tragic, and it needed to be punished, in Afghanistan.

Let's put that number in that perspective. If a guy comes into a city of 100,000 and kills 1 person with a hand gun, because he hates the city, and the freedoms they enjoy there, does that mean the entire city should junk their constitution? Ban guns, do warrant less searches, hold people without trial? Or do you attempt to nail the guy who did it, as well as their co-conspirators. You don't turn your entire city into a police state in response.

The Osama bastards hate our freedoms, so giving up our freedoms in response to their actions has the perverse result of letting them win. I honor and mourn those who died on 9-11, but I refuse, utterly refuse, to let my freedoms be gutted in response.

We are letting emotionalism dictate our policy instead of rationality. If 500,000 people die a year from cancer, and we lose 3,000 a year to terrorism, which is a bigger problem? We don't ignore the terrorists. We stay vigilant. We attack their nests, we shouldn't though allow subpoenas given out without a judge or a grand jury authorizing, and then placing a gag order on the person picked up, with no ability to seek council. If that is the america we want, then I will want no part of it.

93 posted on 09/14/2003 6:12:39 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
We attack their nests, we shouldn't though allow subpoenas given out without a judge or a grand jury authorizing, and then placing a gag order on the person picked up, with no ability to seek council. If that is the america we want, then I will want no part of it.

Oho! One of those anti-American, pro-terrorist, Muslim-coddling types, are you? I bet you're even against the Patriot Act! Well, we got ways to deal with your kind. We'll just declare you an enemy combatant and lock you up permanent without a trial!

114 posted on 09/14/2003 8:55:50 PM PDT by findingtruth
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To: dogbyte12
Exactly what freedoms have you lost since 9/11?
120 posted on 09/15/2003 6:49:32 AM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ("As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: dogbyte12
I think A. Pole's point, is that are 3,000 lives enough to give up our liberty? What is the magic number? What if the towers didn't fall and everybody on the non hit floors got out? Just say 300 people died. Would that be worth giving up our bill of rights?

We are at war. We have suffered one of the greatest attacks on our home soil ever. The enemy wants us dead. They have no morals. They will kill women. They will kill children. They will kill the ederly. They will kill the non-combatant. Historically they are barbarians. All that was painfully clear on 911. We will have no nation at all if we do not defeat them.

Ancient Rome thought the same thoughts you and the modern Democratic party are apparently thinking. 'We can asborb a few hits'. 'Just give the barbarians some goods'. 'Buy them off'. That philosphy has been historically proven to be wrong.

137 posted on 09/16/2003 2:40:00 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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