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Democrats see general as a prize
Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | 9/14/03 | Scott Shepard

Posted on 09/14/2003 10:59:54 AM PDT by madprof98

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> To be the Southern Baptist-turned-Catholic son of a Russian Jewish immigrant.

Ah, yes, he embraces our diverse religious heritage! And why was I not surprised that this latest Dem scumbag abortion-apologist is a fellow Catholic?

1 posted on 09/14/2003 10:59:55 AM PDT by madprof98
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Cardinal4 see general as a Clinton Boob..
2 posted on 09/14/2003 11:01:27 AM PDT by cardinal4
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Sorry, Cardinal4 sees General as a Clinton Boob...
3 posted on 09/14/2003 11:03:41 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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Clark could be a formidible candidate,

He also could be a stand-in for Hillary. He is getting help from the Clinton gang which will mean a ready made organization if circumstance suggests Hillary ought to change her mind and run.
4 posted on 09/14/2003 11:05:22 AM PDT by RJCogburn ("I want a man with grit."..................Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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The outrageous lie he told about the White House calling him on 9/11 to encourage him to go on TV and claim Iraq was connected to the attacks is enough to disqualify him from holding any public office, much less the presidency.
5 posted on 09/14/2003 11:06:43 AM PDT by AHerald
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Re: ''I think it would be very good for the Democratic Party to have a four-star general travel around the country talking about the Democratic Party, talking about the differences with and the failures of the Bush administration," Democratic National Committee Chairman Terry McAuliffe said last week.

Why don't they do this ? The DNC lothes the military.

Ann Coulter is RIGHT !

6 posted on 09/14/2003 11:07:29 AM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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I have heard TWO individuals call in to Hannity (I think) and talk about Clark's "service" activities where he made them fabricate information and other nefarious actions....Hannity encouraged the last to go public with the information.....we shall see.
7 posted on 09/14/2003 11:10:11 AM PDT by goodnesswins (Whiners & PC'ers.......members of the new OFFENDED Political Party)
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They need Algore and one more. Then when Hitlary runs she can be Hitlary and the Twelve Dwarfs.
8 posted on 09/14/2003 11:10:30 AM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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Picture in your mind the perfect clone of Bill Clinton in military uniform.

Now you have a picture-perfect photo of Gen. Wesley Clark.

9 posted on 09/14/2003 11:10:49 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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''I think it would be very good for the Democratic Party to have a four-star general travel around the country talking"

Symbolism over substance. The Dems are suckers for it.

10 posted on 09/14/2003 11:11:25 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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Gee why was he forced into early retirement, or is that a polite way of saying he was canned? Wonder what he has on the clintoons,since they are making nice to him? Just wondering.
11 posted on 09/14/2003 11:11:31 AM PDT by mom-7
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> To have so annoyed the Pentagon brass --- Clinton Secretary of Defense William Cohen once issued this order to him: "Keep your [expletive] face off the television!" --- that he was forced into an early retirement after nearly 34 years in uniform

Oh now, let's get accurate here. Clark nearly started WWIII. THIS is the reason Clark was "forced" into early retirement.

Robertson's plum job in a warring Nato

As Blair's man is installed, Richard Norton-Taylor details the way the alliance generals have been fighting

Tuesday August 3, 1999 The Guardian

No sooner are we told by Britain's top generals that the Russians played a crucial role in ending the west's war against Yugoslavia than we learn that if Nato's supreme commander, the American General Wesley Clark, had had his way, British paratroopers would have stormed Pristina airport threatening to unleash the most frightening crisis with Moscow since the end of the cold war. "I'm not going to start the third world war for you," General Sir Mike Jackson, commander of the international K-For peacekeeping force, is reported to have told Gen Clark when he refused to accept an order to send assault troops to prevent Russian troops from taking over the airfield of Kosovo's provincial capital.

Hyperbole, perhaps. But, by all accounts, Jackson was deadly serious. Clark, as he himself observed, was frustrated after fighting a war with his hands tied behind his back, and was apparently willing to risk everything for the sake of amour-propre .

Nato's increasingly embarrassing, not to say ineffective, air assault on Yugoslavia, had ended. It was over, not least as General Sir Charles Guthrie, chief of the defence staff, acknowledged in an interview with the Guardian, thanks to the intervention of Moscow - its refusal to come to the aid of Belgrade. The point was emphatically underlined by Jackson in a further interview over the weekend with the Sunday Telegraph.

"The event of June 3 [when Moscow urged Milosevic to surrender] was the single event that appeared to me to have the greatest significance in ending the war," said Jackson. Asked about the bombing campaign, he added pointedly: "I wasn't responsible for the air campaign, you're talking to the wrong person."

Having helped Nato out of its predicament, Moscow was embroiled in arguments with Washington about the status of Russian troops in the K-For operation. For reasons to do with efficiency as much as power politics, the west insisted the Russian contingent must be "Nato-led". With or without Yeltsin's say-so, on June 12 a group of some 200 Russian troops drove out of Bosnia - where they were serving with the Nato-led S-For stabilisation force - and in full view of the world's television cameras made for Pristina airport where Jackson had planned to set up his K-For headquarters guarded by British paratroopers.

The Russians had made a political point, not a military one. It was apparently too much for Clark. According to the US magazine, Newsweek, General Clark ordered an airborne assault on the airfield by British and French paratroopers. General Jackson refused. Clark then asked Admiral James Ellis, the American commander of Nato's southern command, to order helicopters to occupy the airport to prevent Russian Ilyushin troop carriers from sending in reinforcements. Ellis replied that the British General Jackson would oppose such a move. In the end the Ilyushins were stopped when Washington persuaded Hungary, a new Nato member, to refuse to allow the Russian aircraft to fly over its territory.

Jackson got full support from the British government for his refusal to carry out the American general's orders. When Clark appealed to Washington, he was allegedly given the brush-off. The American is said to have complained to Jackson about the British general's refusal to accept the order to take over Pristina airfield, and Jackson's subsequent appeal to his political masters when Clark visited Kosovo on June 24.

The unsuccessful issuing of Clark's order has left a bitter taste, especially given the delay in US marines joining the K-For operation - a delay which Jackson had been prepared to indulge even though it held up the entry into Kosovo. Had the British general carried out Clark's instruction, all hope for a compromise with the Russians would have been shattered. In the end, Nato and Moscow reached a compromise and General Jackson willingly provided water and other supplies to stranded Russian paratroopers holed up at the airfield. He swallowed any hurt pride he might have had by insisting, not entirely convincingly, that control of the airfield was not important.

The episode triggers reminiscences of the Korean war. Then, General Douglas MacArthur, commander of the UN force, wanted to invade, even nuke, China, until he was brought to heel by President Truman. So concerned was Clement Attlee that he urgently flew to Washington to put an end to such madness. MacArthur was relieved of his command.

The comparison, of course, is not exact, but worth recording nonetheless. Last week, Clark was told in a telephone conversation from General Henry Shelton, chairman of the US joint chiefs of staff, that he must leave his post early and make way for an older man, General Joseph Ralston, a favourite of the American defence secretary, William Cohen. Clark fell victim, not only to the Pristina airfield row, but to his tense relationship with Washington throughout the war - his repeated requests for more aircraft, including Apache helicopters (never used in conflict because of the risk to pilots), the need for a ground force contingency plan and an altogether more effective strategy against Milosevic, a man he got to know well during the 1995 Dayton peace negotiations on Bosnia. Asked to comment on Clark's forced retirement, Jackson replied: "He is my superior officer and that's it."

So Nato will have a new supreme military commander close to Cohen and a new secretary-general - George Robertson - equally close to the US defence secretary as documents released under the US freedom of information act and reported today elsewhere in this newspaper testify. Though Nato was looking for a German - the defence minister, Rudolf Scharping declined - Robertson is said to have the enthusiastic support of the French and German governments to succeed the Spaniard, Javier Solana, who will take up a new post responsible for developing the EU's incipient common foreign and security policy. What does Robertson's appointment - expected to be formally approved tomorrow - signify ? He is regarded as having a "safe" pair of hands. He is unlikely to take risks. His main task will be to straddle the Atlantic, to help patch fissures in the alliance which almost cracked during the Kosovo war, and to persuade the Europeans to cooperate more effectively in the defence and security field. Robertson has talked much of "defence diplomacy". He will need to put this into practice, no more so than in Nato's relations with Russia, as the transatlantic alliance looks towards the east. The superficial rhetoric, Anglo-American arrogance, and the dangerously presumptuous approach towards Moscow, must be laid to rest.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Kosovo/Story/0,2763,208123,00.html

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An article from the UK, 5 years ago, tells the truth on Clark. This information must get out. Clark is UNFIT to be Commander in Chief, Veep, or Sec. of Defense.

Prairie

12 posted on 09/14/2003 11:13:47 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by The American Democratic Party, also known as Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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they left one out...

To have been relieved of command after being a royal pain in the arse. That seems to have been lef tout of his biography.
13 posted on 09/14/2003 11:14:41 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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see post 12

Prairie
14 posted on 09/14/2003 11:14:50 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Brought to you by The American Democratic Party, also known as Al Qaeda, Western Division.)
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I'd like for Wesley Clark to explain how he felt when the democrats tried to keep servicemen and women's votes from counting in the '00 election!!!
15 posted on 09/14/2003 11:22:14 AM PDT by admiralsn (If you want to make God laugh, tell him your future plans.)
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To have so annoyed the Pentagon brass --- Clinton Secretary of Defense William Cohen once issued this order to him: "Keep your [expletive] face off the television!" --- that he was forced into an early retirement after nearly 34 years in uniform.

The Dems only like his military experience because they believe it gives him credibility and them cover to attack the Pentagon.

16 posted on 09/14/2003 11:23:36 AM PDT by Dolphy
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"....... he will start halfway to the bottom of the field --- fifth in a field of 10, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup Poll."

Considering the last half must be Graham, Braun, Sharpton, Lieberman, and Kucinich, and they're off the charts, I'd say he's right at the bottom.

Hey, it's not like we never had a Benedict Arnold before.

17 posted on 09/14/2003 11:27:09 AM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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Democrats see general as a prize

Republicans see general as a POS Clintonite.

18 posted on 09/14/2003 11:28:10 AM PDT by DCBryan1
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To: ChadGore; MeeknMing; AHerald; goodnesswins; Bubba_Leroy; Registered; Jim Robinson
"Why don't they do this ? The DNC lothes the military."



Gore Confers With Gen. Clark

Democrap Military Ballot Box


19 posted on 09/14/2003 11:28:28 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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The outrageous lie he told about the White House calling him on 9/11 to encourage him to
go on TV and claim Iraq was connected to the attacks is enough to disqualify him from
holding any public office, much less the presidency.


That, plus his prediction of thousands of body-bags (for US soldiers) in Iraq...
I'm just PRAYING for a Dean-Clark ticket!

Oh course, Clark was in charge when the Chinese Embassy got bombed during our
glorious war against the Serbs, so he can't be all bad...even if that was just
an accident.
20 posted on 09/14/2003 11:34:31 AM PDT by VOA
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