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Microsoft at the power point [why Linux is slandered at FR]
The Economist ^ | 13 September 2003 | Economist staff

Posted on 09/13/2003 7:32:43 PM PDT by chilepepper

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A good summary of the Microsoft/Linux war to date... clearly certain FReepers who will go unnamed are playing their part in trying to slander Linux anyway they can.
1 posted on 09/13/2003 7:32:46 PM PDT by chilepepper
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To: rdb3
Penguin alert.

}:-)4
2 posted on 09/13/2003 7:35:36 PM PDT by Moose4 (I'm Southern. We've been refighting the Civil War for 138 years, you think we'll forget 9/11?)
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To: John Robinson; B Knotts; stainlessbanner; TechJunkYard; ShadowAce; Knitebane; AppyPappy; jae471; ...
The Penguin Ping.

Wanna be Penguified? Just holla!

Got root?

3 posted on 09/13/2003 7:41:58 PM PDT by rdb3 (Which is more powerful: The story or the warrior?)
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To: chilepepper
Aww go on...name 'em and let's hear the "slander" :). It's a slow night here anyway....
4 posted on 09/13/2003 7:42:06 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: chilepepper
Programming for and working on Microsoft products every day puts a roof over my kids heads. But I am no zealot; there is a tool for every job. Sometimes Microsoft makes the best sense, sometimes not. But Microsoft is now feeling the forces of raw capitalism squeezing in - they must start producing superior products, or be crushed. They've been lax for far too long. Its as simple as that. Their current shoddy security practices I fear will prove their undoing.
5 posted on 09/13/2003 7:42:18 PM PDT by egarvue (Martin Sheen is not my president...)
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To: chilepepper
Ther only ones who slander Linux are those who are full of smug self-righteousness about being anti-Microsoft etc...

Me? I use both, and am a happier person for it.
6 posted on 09/13/2003 7:44:36 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks ( I honor my personality flaws for without them I would have no personality at all.)
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It's not Linux that is the problem: it is the idea itself.

Europeans and Japanese are marvelous in improving the production process and reverse-engineer the existing process. But what about the ideas themselves, the new products? Why is it that they invariably come from the States?

This is because private ownership stimulates innovation. Undertaking a new enterprise is risky, and the only compensation for an increased risk is higher reward. Remove that possibility --- and there is no reason to take risk; no reason to develope new products. Socialists invariably miss that point, not surprisingly: socialistm is about equitable redistribution of existing wealth. Iht has failed everywhere, in all forms, to create new wealth --- even when it was protected by the military migh of the U.S. and hardly spent on defense.

This has nothing to do with the features of Linux or Microsoft's policies. The issue is at the heart of our world outlook.

7 posted on 09/13/2003 7:44:43 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: chilepepper
Live by the monopoly, die by the monopoly.
8 posted on 09/13/2003 7:47:51 PM PDT by Imal (The World According to Imal: http://imal.blogspot.com)
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To: chilepepper
Hmm, downloading songs for free bad. Making Microsoft give away their work for free good?
9 posted on 09/13/2003 7:51:29 PM PDT by SCHROLL
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To: egarvue
Their current shoddy security practices I fear will prove their undoing.

Yer right as rain! I believe that deep within MSFT the original programming gurus, who direct and control current efforts, still have a single-user DOS mindset.

10 posted on 09/13/2003 7:54:30 PM PDT by upchuck (The Palis are a bunch of wackos with a 14th Century mentality and 20th Century toys. Kill 'em.)
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To: chilepepper
For me, Linux and FR go together ... I am reading FR on my Linux box right now, I've done this since 1998, and I've had linux since 1995 ... My current PC desktop used to be dual booted, but when I upgraded the motherboard to 2.5GHz Athlon, Win98 croaked and for some reason just wont run ... but linux (RH 9.0) does. :-)
11 posted on 09/13/2003 7:55:03 PM PDT by WOSG (Dont put Cali on CRUZ CONTROL.)
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To: upchuck
hear, hear - 2 viruses on my PC Win2K machine last 2 weeks at work. very annoying, had to get patches etc. A non-problem for linux. some sys admins are beginning to notice. hmmmm.

12 posted on 09/13/2003 7:56:54 PM PDT by WOSG (Dont put Cali on CRUZ CONTROL.)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Bush2000, Golden Eagle, TheEngineer and me up to Labor Day
weekend, However I have since turned to a solid penguin and no longer post anti Linux bilge.
13 posted on 09/13/2003 7:56:54 PM PDT by Coral Snake (Biting commies, crooks, globalist traitors, islamofascists and any other type of Anti American)
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To: chilepepper
For the most part, the countries that refuse to buy Microsoft, such as the Germans and the Chinese, do so because they are looking for ways to weaken the United States. It has nothing to do with monopolies, antitrust, or that sort of thing. They just want to undermine U.S. exports and intellectual property.

India has a long record of doing this, too.
14 posted on 09/13/2003 7:57:35 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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A good summary of the Microsoft/Linux war to date... clearly certain FReepers who will go unnamed are playing their part in trying to slander Linux anyway they can.

I think he's talkin' bout choo, Willis. ;)

*sits in the corner with his Mac and watches the show; got no dog in this hunt*

15 posted on 09/13/2003 7:59:11 PM PDT by Timesink
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Europeans and Japanese are marvelous in improving the production process and reverse-engineer the existing process. But what about the ideas themselves, the new products? Why is it that they invariably come from the States?

With all due respect, the history of technology does not quite agree with your implication. The airplane, the automobile, electronics were all originally invented in the US. If US companies lost domestic or world share for these products it was, nearly always, the result of the companies that produced the product allowing the quality to deteriorate. When management becomes lazy or arrogant, quality suffers.

16 posted on 09/13/2003 8:01:12 PM PDT by elbucko ("Velcome to Kalyfornia, Comrade Kennedy's from Taxachusetts".)
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"playing their part in trying to slander Linux anyway they can."

The Mac crowd is welcoming you to the party...

The M$ Mafia will do anything... anything to peddle their pathetic crap they call an operating system. How dare these Munchners to try to escape the M$ HELL.
17 posted on 09/13/2003 8:01:56 PM PDT by observer5
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"they must start producing superior products, or be crushed"

You got to be kidding... How about just products that WORK!
18 posted on 09/13/2003 8:03:05 PM PDT by observer5
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airplane, the automobile, electronics were all originally invented in the US.

That's what I said.

19 posted on 09/13/2003 8:04:12 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: upchuck
I believe that deep within MSFT the original programming gurus, who direct and control current efforts, still have a single-user DOS mindset.

Wow! I don't know Jack about computers, other than what I need to know and even I understood the implication of your post.

20 posted on 09/13/2003 8:05:09 PM PDT by elbucko ("Velcome to Kalyfornia, Comrade Kennedy's from Taxachusetts".)
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