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Right-leaning 'ideologue' known for his commitment to principle [McClintock]
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Posted on 09/12/2003 11:12:44 PM PDT by ambrose

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:43:44 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: EternalVigilance
Some of the people that post here on FR are not conservatives. They want "less government" because they're lust-filled, drug-using, porn-buying libertines. They not only don't like a guy that espouses morality - they fear him and what he might do. They might believe Arnold will bring about a more positive business climate, and might increase their taxes less than CB - but they're not into morality - quite the contrary. Druggietarians.
21 posted on 09/12/2003 11:49:15 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "This Train don't carry no scammers - no AlSharptons, no midnight ramblers - This Train.")
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State Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Northridge, points to a chart showing projected cost of  workers compensation insurance rates, during a debate over a package of bills to reform workers compensation insurance held at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., Friday, Sept. 12 2003. In the final hours of this years legislative session lawmakers approved the package of eight bills that Democrats say would cut the cost of treating job-related injuries by at least 20 percent. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)
Fri Sep 12,11:12 PM ET

State Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Northridge, points to a chart showing projected cost of workers compensation insurance rates, during a debate over a package of bills to reform workers compensation insurance held at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., Friday, Sept. 12 2003. In the final hours of this years legislative session lawmakers approved the package of eight bills that Democrats say would cut the cost of treating job-related injuries by at least 20 percent. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

22 posted on 09/12/2003 11:54:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: ambrose
"To get a victory just to have a Republican there and still lose all of the issues that you feel strongly about -- what kind of victory is that?"

Somebody with a sensible way of looking at the whole recall speaks! Someone with a lack of PAC support..and influence, I have no doubt.

23 posted on 09/12/2003 11:55:32 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: ambrose
"His role is the ideologue, carrying the pure principle and pure ideals of the Republican Party, liberty and limited government," said Fleischman. "He doesn't believe the way to achieve a goal is through compromise, but through determination and bold contrast."

Well, politics is the art of compromise. Apparently, this guy missed that class.

24 posted on 09/12/2003 11:57:26 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: KellyAdmirer
There were those who built Vichy France, and there were those who fought to liberate it.
25 posted on 09/12/2003 11:59:39 PM PDT by ambrose (Member of the McClintock Militia)
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To: NormsRevenge
So basically what that illustrates is Tom's all bark no bite policy of dealing with goverment.
26 posted on 09/13/2003 12:01:06 AM PDT by Tempest (Anyone who accepts the LA Times as the truth has no business calling anyone a RINO)
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To: ambrose
Ooooooh ! BURN ! ;-)
27 posted on 09/13/2003 12:02:29 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
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To: Tamsey
Yes, SF Gate (a child outlet of the SF Chronicle) has a liberal bias. However, after doing a Google search on the author, Carolyn Lochhead, I have found that she seems to be "fair and balanced". Yes, she has written positive pieces for Dem politicians and liberal issues. But she has also written articles that are supportive of Republicans and critical of the Dems (including criticizing Clinton).

Besides the article posted above, here are some examples of her more conservative writings (at least that was my impression after brief scanning--I didn't have time for an in-dept read of each article):

Republicans control the nation's purse for the first time in 40 years. Do they have the courage to roll back federal spending?

Child's Play: The budget debate is deceiving Americans about the fiscal future.

Armey of the Right: Majority Leader Dick Armey may well be the next Speaker of the House. What's his agenda?

28 posted on 09/13/2003 12:05:34 AM PDT by SpyGuy
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To: Tempest
So basically what that illustrates is Tom's all bark no bite policy of dealing with goverment.

Maybe Tom could get a job in Sacramento doing pretty spreadsheets and graphics like the one he's holding in the picture for Governor Schwarzenegger. No reason to let creative talent like that go to waste.

29 posted on 09/13/2003 12:06:35 AM PDT by strela (Does CA need a Governor who can't check a box properly, even after 25 years of practice?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
"General Secretary Gorbachev, if you seek peace, if you seek prosperity for the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, if you seek liberalization: Come here to this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, open this gate! Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!"
- Ronald Reagan, June 12, 1987


Can you imagine some spineless RINO weasel giving that speech? Shame shame shame on the so-called "Freepers" who support Arnold.
30 posted on 09/13/2003 12:07:09 AM PDT by ambrose (Member of the McClintock Militia)
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To: Agnes Heep
Vote for McClintock and you'll get Bustamante.

Me thinks that the McClintock supporters are looking for a reason to vote for Arnold, knowing that he will fight for Convservative values and not just Party values.

Without a firm political agenda from Arnold, that is favorable, those votes will be lost for Arnold. All he has to do, IMHO, is convince the conservatives that his way is the better way, and from what I have learned is that Tom McClintock has done a much better job of showing an agenda in favor of those conservative values.

31 posted on 09/13/2003 12:08:17 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: ambrose
There were those who built Vichy France, and there were those who fought to liberate it.

And there were men like Tom, safely back behind the lines, counting GI cans and bedpans for the quarterly inventory report.

32 posted on 09/13/2003 12:08:41 AM PDT by strela (Does CA need a Governor who can't check a box properly, even after 25 years of practice?)
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To: ambrose
"I love it when a plan comes together."

So does Hillary and she's smiling like crazy. You not only just fell off of a turnip truck, you're laying there loving it while she keeps running you over, backing up and hitting the gas again.

Hillary went to California early into this recall to help plan the strategy to keep the state in control of the Democrats. The liberal papers are following the DNC agenda precisely, just as you and I both know they do.

They keep baking dog-poop into a pie, telling you it's pumpkin and then delivering it to you wrapped in a bow. And you folks are gobbling it up happily because pumpkin pie is your FAVORITE.

This article is nothing but another liberal attempt to con the conservatives out of voting for the front-running GOP candidate. Are you going to let yourself be manipulated like that?

33 posted on 09/13/2003 12:08:51 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Tempest; ambrose
Can you imagine what a meeting of the "McClintock Militia" must be like?

I can see it now - 15 unmarried guys crowded into a neighbor's basement, holding close-order drill out in the back yard. They probably have calisthenics as well - voting lever hand crunches, sign-holding arm squat thrusts, yard sign hammer hand pushups ...

34 posted on 09/13/2003 12:14:32 AM PDT by strela (Does CA need a Governor who can't check a box properly, even after 25 years of practice?)
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To: ambrose
Can you imagine some spineless RINO weasel giving that speech? Shame shame shame on the so-called "Freepers" who support Arnold.

You guys are on really rocky ground when you try to use Reagan to prove how very "liberal" Arnold is. Reagan was, in my opinion, a gift from God to the country and to the world when we desperately needed him the most. Had we used your purist conservative standards, however, you would have berated us for voting for him, too.

Reagan raised taxes his first term as Governor.

Reagan was not pro-life until after he became Governor, and signed an abortion bill into California law.

Reagan signed a gun control bill into California law..

Reagan allowed homosexuals in his social circle and even had them sleep over at the White House..

Reagan signed into law the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 which gave blanket amnesty to 2.7 million illegal immigrants. .

Reagan was divorced and remarried, too, not a perfectly "pure" past according to some conservative standards.

Reagan was a life-long Democrat until just shortly before he ran for Governor, Arnold is only married to one and has been a Republican for 30 years..

-- So tell me how are we letting our mutual tremendous hero Reagan down by voting for Arnold again?.

35 posted on 09/13/2003 12:22:01 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: ambrose
I like how you think!!!!!!!!!!
36 posted on 09/13/2003 12:27:05 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("What is impossible with men is possible with GOD -Luke 18:27)
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To: strela; ambrose
You forgot about the many cries of RINO!!!, high-fives, and feverishly patting each other on the buttocks for a job well done.
37 posted on 09/13/2003 12:36:38 AM PDT by Tempest (Anyone who accepts the LA Times as the truth has no business calling anyone a RINO)
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To: Tempest
You forgot about the many cries of RINO!!!, high-fives, and feverishly patting each other on the buttocks for a job well done.

Ah yes, the butt-patting.

(I wasn't going to go there, but I'm glad you did) ;)

38 posted on 09/13/2003 12:39:13 AM PDT by strela (Does CA need a Governor who can't check a box properly, even after 25 years of practice?)
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To: ambrose; Tamsey
He steadily rises, as Arnold steadily drops. Bustmanate remains static. In the final week, McClintock will finally pass Arnold in second place, and be coming up on Cruz.

Tom demonstrating his amazing momentum machine.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981661/posts

39 posted on 09/13/2003 12:41:05 AM PDT by Tempest (Anyone who accepts the LA Times as the truth has no business calling anyone a RINO)
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To: ambrose; BlackElk
"Can you imagine some spineless RINO weasel giving that speech?"

Not a one. If anything, they'd have been praising the Soviets for all their "progressive reforms." (sic) Probably join hands with ole "Spot-Head" and sing Kumbaya.

"Shame shame shame on the so-called "Freepers" who support Arnold."

Damn straight !

40 posted on 09/13/2003 12:43:06 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
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