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Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Social Conservative
Intellectual Conservative ^ | September 12, 2003 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 09/12/2003 12:19:04 PM PDT by EllaMinnow

Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a social conservative, despite much rhetoric to the contrary. Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent without resort to laws, regulations and bureaucrats.

Social conservatism is a respect for tradition and for values which have withstood the test of time. Chinese family members who respect and support one another, even at the cost of personal wishes, are social conservatives whatever their metaphysical beliefs.

This definition of social conservatism as a matter of example rather than profession does not mean we agree on every detail of moral behavior. It means instead that we root ourselves in something permanent, dignified and civic. Even eccentricity can be socially conservative. British and American peoples are famous for producing men who, for want of a better term, are cranks. That is very much a part of the culture of these two nations.

At the heart of social conservatism is fidelity. Often men who are social conservatives are ideologically left of center. Jimmy Carter is a good example. By all appearances, Carter took his marital vows seriously and his religious faith seriously. He stopped serving hard liquor at White House dinners.

That did not prevent Carter from being a petty, spiteful and almost insufferable boor. And it certainly did not prevent Carter from being wrong on almost every issue. But it does mean that Jimmy Carter was a social conservative.

Joe Lieberman is also a social conservative, even if he supports terrible policies. Every indication is that Lieberman is a religiously serious Orthodox Jew. It is impossible to imagine Joe munching a bacon cheeseburger on Kol Nidre. Bill Bradley is another social conservative who loves his wife, gained his wealth and fame through guts and hard work, and sincerely believes in all the bad ideas he proposes.

The beauty of America, of course, is that social conservatism does not require being correct as much as being sincere. It does not require conformity to a particular catechism so much as it means conformity to some catechism. The bewildering variety of religions, sects, and societies in American life is a testament to Americans respecting in social life the same freedom to be wrong that we respect in our economic life. Indeed, social conservatism is another form of market choice which helps, through competition, to elevate cultures and traditions within America.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is made of the "right stuff.” There is no odor of phoniness about him. He loves his wife and family. He worked his way to the top with sweat and diligence. He resembles a number of other social conservative Republicans around President Bush who are not generally recognized as social conservatives.

Who? How about Colin Powell? He turned down the Presidency itself in 1996 out of respect for his wife and family. Does anyone question that what Powell believes, he believes sincerely? How about Tom Ridge, who was too liberal to be the running mate in 2000, but who putters around his home for recreation and grew up in the Marine Corps.

Tony Blair and Rudy Giuliani are social conservatives who we seldom see as social conservatives. Both these heroic figures do what they do publicly and because they believe it is right. Thank goodness both are on our side now--social conservatives dig their heels in very deeply!--but even when Giuliani supports abortion or Powell supports affirmative action, they can do so looking you straight in the eye with a polygraph examiner unable to detect a hint of spin in their answers.

This type of social conservative--guys doing what they think is right because they think it is right--is precisely the sort of man that President Bush has shown incredible skill in using to make America better. Our Texan President, our proudly Cowboy President, does not demand that anyone agree with him on every issue. In fact, such silly boys can be skimmed off the corporate boards of a hundred big companies.

He wants people who are true to themselves. He wants, and we should want, real social conservatives. Rabbis who read Torah as if it were holy writ. Priests who take their vows seriously. Men who honor their parents and are faithful to their wives. Men like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronald Reagan or John Wayne, who will fight for what they think is right.

When Governor Schwarzenegger takes office, President Bush will find honor more valuable than agreement and grit more important than obedience. It will be a winning team, perhaps a team that can transform America.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
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To: EternalVigilance
Meaning what? You have a problem with President Bush 41??
61 posted on 09/12/2003 12:49:52 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: Ingtar
President Bush 41 is a RINO?? Give me a friggin break!!!

You people are CERTIFIABLY NUTS!!!
62 posted on 09/12/2003 12:50:47 PM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife (CNN: where " WE report what WE decide!!")
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To: redlipstick
I see that more than a few Arnold supporters reject this article as crap. I would be disappointed if they hadn't.

Seriously. This article is very "1984", up is down - black is white, etc. And I'm sure most Arnold supporters don't want to be lumped together with Jimmy Carter and Joe Lieberman either.

What in the world were you thinking when you posted this?
63 posted on 09/12/2003 12:50:51 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
This is the lowest of low. McClintocks people using these kinds of tactics

I agree, but to my knowledge McClintock himself and his actual campaign team aren't pushing the Oui crud. It's a minority of stalwarts here and there, but the man (Tom) himself has kept out of the mud.
64 posted on 09/12/2003 12:51:15 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: NittanyLion; redlipstick
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Social Conservative
Goliath was a slightly-built Jewish shepherd
Monica Lewinsky has the body of a Victoria's Secret model

Arafat's a stud puppy.

Seriously, the author's point is well-taken and thought-provoking. Thanks for the post and I hope that asbestos underwear does its job well.

65 posted on 09/12/2003 12:51:36 PM PDT by SeattleTiger
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To: redlipstick
Intellectualize this! No matter how lipstick you swab on that pig, it's still gonna be a pig! Arnold might be a Republican, (because he says so), but he ain't no conservative, by any stretch of the imagination!
66 posted on 09/12/2003 12:52:12 PM PDT by old school
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To: strela
So did Hitler.

Hitler had only one testicle. You don't suppose ...

Well, on average, we ALL have one testicle and one ovary.

67 posted on 09/12/2003 12:52:20 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Free Miguel, Priscilla and Bill!)
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To: Vets_Husband_and_Wife
I said, "It speaks for itself".
68 posted on 09/12/2003 12:52:38 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: truthandlife
So if you are pro-abortion, pro-gay rights, pro-gun control, and pro-illegal immigration then you are a social conservative? This makes a lot of sense.

Makes as much sense as claiming conservatives are the real RINOs. Truth doesn't matter to these folks; they try to drown out McClintock supporters by raising the volume and intensity of their ad hominem attacks.

Reminds me of Begala/Carville.

69 posted on 09/12/2003 12:53:59 PM PDT by NittanyLion (Go Tom Go!)
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To: strela
So you think Arnold is a Social Conservative?
70 posted on 09/12/2003 12:54:00 PM PDT by truthandlife
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To: NittanyLion
Me too.
71 posted on 09/12/2003 12:54:37 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: redlipstick
I just need to take issue with his characterization of Carter and Lieberman. Socially conservative and/or deeply religious people are not deceitful. Well, maybe Carter believes his claptrap, but I am still seething from Lieberman's shameful purveying the lie, at that "debate" spectacle the other night, that President Bush was personally responsible for denying African Americans the vote in Florida in 2000. (Of course, nobody was denied the vote, except the military by a dem scheme.)

Grrrrrrrr

Rant over, will be back on topic in a sec.
72 posted on 09/12/2003 12:55:02 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: old school
Intellectualize this!

I trust that your hand was ABOVE waist-level when you said that. This IS a family FreeRepublic.

Once again, McClintock supporters shows the true depth and breadth of their intellectual base.

73 posted on 09/12/2003 12:55:17 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Wouldn't attack Bush 41 on FR ('cept perhaps for caving to George Mitchell on taxes (read my hips) and for Souter). Wouldn't be prudent. Naa gaa dooit.
74 posted on 09/12/2003 12:56:01 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: EternalVigilance
I thought I'd seen the worst elements this site could offer during the CFR debate. I realize now I was wrong.
75 posted on 09/12/2003 12:56:45 PM PDT by NittanyLion (Go Tom Go!)
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To: ElkGroveDan
So are Ted Kennedy, Barbara Boxer, and Larry Flynt since they all hold similar views as Arnold on social issues.

No, that is not the reasoning used by the author.

76 posted on 09/12/2003 12:56:52 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: truthandlife
So you think Arnold is a Social Conservative?

He is conservative on some issues, moderate on most, and liberal on a few. Like everybody else who is NOT an idealogue.

77 posted on 09/12/2003 12:56:55 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: strela
You don't suppose ...

** whistles "Col. Bogey March" **
78 posted on 09/12/2003 12:57:27 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: redlipstick
Social conservatism means holding traditional western values, Jewish or Christian. It's completely incompatible with legalizing abortion or treating human beings like commodities.
79 posted on 09/12/2003 12:58:01 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeattleTiger
Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Social Conservative
Goliath was a slightly-built Jewish shepherd
Monica Lewinsky has the body of a Victoria's Secret model
Arafat's a stud puppy.
Babs Streisand is an intellectual
80 posted on 09/12/2003 12:58:11 PM PDT by kidd
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