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Arnold Schwarzenegger is a Social Conservative
Intellectual Conservative ^ | September 12, 2003 | Bruce Walker

Posted on 09/12/2003 12:19:04 PM PDT by EllaMinnow

Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is a social conservative, despite much rhetoric to the contrary. Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent without resort to laws, regulations and bureaucrats.

Social conservatism is a respect for tradition and for values which have withstood the test of time. Chinese family members who respect and support one another, even at the cost of personal wishes, are social conservatives whatever their metaphysical beliefs.

This definition of social conservatism as a matter of example rather than profession does not mean we agree on every detail of moral behavior. It means instead that we root ourselves in something permanent, dignified and civic. Even eccentricity can be socially conservative. British and American peoples are famous for producing men who, for want of a better term, are cranks. That is very much a part of the culture of these two nations.

At the heart of social conservatism is fidelity. Often men who are social conservatives are ideologically left of center. Jimmy Carter is a good example. By all appearances, Carter took his marital vows seriously and his religious faith seriously. He stopped serving hard liquor at White House dinners.

That did not prevent Carter from being a petty, spiteful and almost insufferable boor. And it certainly did not prevent Carter from being wrong on almost every issue. But it does mean that Jimmy Carter was a social conservative.

Joe Lieberman is also a social conservative, even if he supports terrible policies. Every indication is that Lieberman is a religiously serious Orthodox Jew. It is impossible to imagine Joe munching a bacon cheeseburger on Kol Nidre. Bill Bradley is another social conservative who loves his wife, gained his wealth and fame through guts and hard work, and sincerely believes in all the bad ideas he proposes.

The beauty of America, of course, is that social conservatism does not require being correct as much as being sincere. It does not require conformity to a particular catechism so much as it means conformity to some catechism. The bewildering variety of religions, sects, and societies in American life is a testament to Americans respecting in social life the same freedom to be wrong that we respect in our economic life. Indeed, social conservatism is another form of market choice which helps, through competition, to elevate cultures and traditions within America.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is made of the "right stuff.” There is no odor of phoniness about him. He loves his wife and family. He worked his way to the top with sweat and diligence. He resembles a number of other social conservative Republicans around President Bush who are not generally recognized as social conservatives.

Who? How about Colin Powell? He turned down the Presidency itself in 1996 out of respect for his wife and family. Does anyone question that what Powell believes, he believes sincerely? How about Tom Ridge, who was too liberal to be the running mate in 2000, but who putters around his home for recreation and grew up in the Marine Corps.

Tony Blair and Rudy Giuliani are social conservatives who we seldom see as social conservatives. Both these heroic figures do what they do publicly and because they believe it is right. Thank goodness both are on our side now--social conservatives dig their heels in very deeply!--but even when Giuliani supports abortion or Powell supports affirmative action, they can do so looking you straight in the eye with a polygraph examiner unable to detect a hint of spin in their answers.

This type of social conservative--guys doing what they think is right because they think it is right--is precisely the sort of man that President Bush has shown incredible skill in using to make America better. Our Texan President, our proudly Cowboy President, does not demand that anyone agree with him on every issue. In fact, such silly boys can be skimmed off the corporate boards of a hundred big companies.

He wants people who are true to themselves. He wants, and we should want, real social conservatives. Rabbis who read Torah as if it were holy writ. Priests who take their vows seriously. Men who honor their parents and are faithful to their wives. Men like Arnold Schwarzenegger or Ronald Reagan or John Wayne, who will fight for what they think is right.

When Governor Schwarzenegger takes office, President Bush will find honor more valuable than agreement and grit more important than obedience. It will be a winning team, perhaps a team that can transform America.


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To: redlipstick
Social conservatism means a serious fidelity to those beliefs and traditions which keep us civilized and decent.

You guys are getting SOOOO desperate to put lipstick on this pig to dress it up. I can't wait for the Gigi story to blow up a week before the election and scuttle this latest talking point from "Intellectual Conservative.com"

Incendentally, are they a wholely own subsideary of Arnold For Governor.com? Nothing but ludacris rationalizations have been posted on FR from them for a couple weeks now.

This one is by far the dumbest, even (R)nold says himself that he is a social liberal/fiscal conservative...that is, if you can believe a single word (R)nold ever says.


101 posted on 09/12/2003 1:08:06 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA ((R)nold called me a "Right wing crazy" because I have a problem with his position on Prop 54)
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To: strela
so I had to learn the trade myself.

Don't give up your day job.

102 posted on 09/12/2003 1:08:46 PM PDT by Polycarp ("women will be saved through childbearing--if they continue in faith, love and holiness" 1Tim2:15)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Vote change - Vote Schwarzenegger
103 posted on 09/12/2003 1:09:29 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
You guys are getting SOOOO desperate to put lipstick on this pig to dress it up.

"Desperation" implies that my candidate currently has 4-5 percent of the vote, like McNugget.

I am rubber you are glue. Whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.

104 posted on 09/12/2003 1:10:55 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: cyncooper
That idiot Patches? Kathleen Kennedy Townsend? Who?

The whacko-enviro Robert Kennedy, Jr.?

Naw, he's busy now advising Arnold on environmental issues...have you heard??

105 posted on 09/12/2003 1:11:14 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: strela
... its just more grist for the mill.

Anymore fresh, undoctored photos of McC to laugh at today?

106 posted on 09/12/2003 1:11:17 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: Polycarp
Don't give up your day job.

(cymbal riff)

107 posted on 09/12/2003 1:11:30 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: Ingtar
Bush 41 was a RINO in many ways. He was a Liberal Republican who had to change his tune when tapped as Reagan's running mate.

Since he was good enough for Reagan he's always been good enough for me. How do you explain Reagan picking him? Was it a politically motivated rationale? Then we're back to that is also the rationale for electing Schwarzenegger, who is in fact much more conservative than many here give him credit for.

108 posted on 09/12/2003 1:11:41 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Who loves ya, baby? Cruz loves ya!!!


109 posted on 09/12/2003 1:11:53 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Never Forget.)
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To: truthandlife
Arnold's supporters are really getting deseperate.


110 posted on 09/12/2003 1:13:25 PM PDT by CheneyChick (Yes on Recall, No on Bustamante.)
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To: 68 grunt
Anymore fresh, undoctored photos of McC to laugh at today?

In McNugget's case, that is a tall order. The pictures from his last campaign function are ready to pick up at Wal Mart, but he needs to gather a few more aluminum cans to have enough to get them.

111 posted on 09/12/2003 1:13:26 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: redlipstick
Cruz loves ya!!!

I don't think the state can survive Cruz's "tough love." Or if it does, due to a nationwide recovery that also lifts CA, we'll NEVER get rid of his tax hikes ...
112 posted on 09/12/2003 1:13:50 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: redlipstick

113 posted on 09/12/2003 1:13:53 PM PDT by CheneyChick (Yes on Recall, No on Bustamante.)
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To: cyncooper
LOL! I sure stirred up the hornets, didn't I?

Funny thing, I heard about Bush 41's donation, and did a google with "Scwarzenegger Bush Donation" and this article was the first thing that popped up.
114 posted on 09/12/2003 1:14:05 PM PDT by EllaMinnow (Never Forget.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I thought there was nothing left to shock me about these "People Magazine Voters" and now this.

115 posted on 09/12/2003 1:14:27 PM PDT by Afronaut (All Liberals are Evil: R or no R)
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To: EternalVigilance
So what?

No, I don't envision Robert the in-law to take on Bush.

LOL
116 posted on 09/12/2003 1:14:52 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: EternalVigilance
The whacko-enviro Robert Kennedy, Jr.?

The very same guy who named his son "Vieques"? Poor kid. He'll be smacked around by the other kids in kindergarten.

117 posted on 09/12/2003 1:14:56 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: redlipstick
Did you notice that the star graphic at the top of that picture of one of McClintock's campaign signs is curving down, much like an aircraft that has run out of fuel and is about to crash?
118 posted on 09/12/2003 1:15:10 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: Polycarp


"Arnold is a social conservative!"

119 posted on 09/12/2003 1:15:23 PM PDT by eastsider
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Ooops - hiccup!
120 posted on 09/12/2003 1:16:14 PM PDT by CheneyChick (Yes on Recall, No on Bustamante.)
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