[tcostell]

I'm not accusing you of being from DU but I am accusing you of offering no substantive arguments at all (which is kind of the calling card of a liberal). You paint this colorful imagery of Bush going from "Glorious victor" to "bumbling appeaser" but you don't talk about any facts. The change you describe happened only in your mind.

[LarryM]

I'm not accusing you of being from DU but I am accusing you of offering no substantive arguments at all (which is kind of the calling card of a liberal). You paint this colorful imagery of Bush going from "Glorious victor" to "bumbling appeaser" but you don't talk about any facts. The change you describe happened only in your mind.

I have two words to back up my contentions: Road Map. The Road Map (actually an EU, UN, State Dept. concoction) was Bush's effort to appease the Saudis by creating a Palestinian State (on the ruins of Israel). During this stage, the State Dept. was actually negotiating with Hamas using Egypt as the intermediary. How well did that turn out? The left has been baying for at least a month about how we need to go to the UN over Iraq. What does Bush do? He goes to the UN and becomes a laughing stock. The Rats laughed at him, the French, laughed, and so did the Germans. By trying to appease his enemies, he only damaged himself. Is there something here you don't understand?