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The chemical bases of the various AIDS epidemics
J. Biosci.28 383–412 ^ | 2003 | Peter Duesberg†, Claus Koehnlein* and David Rasnick

Posted on 09/10/2003 5:02:34 PM PDT by AdamSelene235

The chemical bases of the various AIDS epidemics: recreational
drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy and malnutrition

Peter Duesberg, Claus Koehnlein* and David Rasnick

Donner Laboratory, University of California Berkeley, Berkeley, CA 94720, USA

*Internistische Praxis, Koenigsweg 14, 24103 Kiel, Germany

Corresponding author (Fax, 510-643-6455; Email: duesberg@uclink4.berkeley.edu)

In 1981 a new epidemic of about two-dozen heterogeneous diseases began to strike non-randomly growing numbers of male homosexuals and mostly male intravenous drug users in the US and Europe. Assuming immunodeficiency as the common denominator the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC) termed the epidemic, AIDS, for acquired immunodeficiency syndrome. From 1981–1984 leading researchers including those from the CDC proposed that recreational drug use was the cause of AIDS, because of exact correlations and of drug-specific diseases. However, in 1984 US government researchers proposed that a virus, now termed human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), is the cause of the non-random epidemics of the US and Europe but also of a new, sexually random epidemic in Africa. The virus-AIDS hypothesis was instantly accepted, but it is burdened with numerous paradoxes, none of which could be resolved by 2003: Why is there no HIV in most AIDS patients, only antibodies against it? Why would HIV take 10 years from infection to AIDS? Why is AIDS not self-limiting via antiviral immunity? Why is there no vaccine against AIDS? Why is AIDS in the US and Europe not random like other viral epidemics? Why did AIDS not rise and then decline exponentially owing to antiviral immunity like all other viral epidemics? Why is AIDS not contagious? Why would only HIV carriers get AIDS who use either recreational or anti-HIV drugs or are subject to malnutrition? Why is the mortality of HIV-antibody-positives treated with anti-HIV drugs 7–9%, but that of all (mostly untreated) HIV-positives globally is only 1×4%? Here we propose that AIDS is a collection of chemical epidemics, caused by recreational drugs, anti-HIV drugs, and malnutrition. According to this hypothesis AIDS is not contagious, not immuno­genic, not treatable by vaccines or antiviral drugs, and HIV is just a passenger virus. The hypothesis explains why AIDS epidemics strike non-randomly if caused by drugs and randomly if caused by malnutrition, why they manifest in drug- and malnutrition-specific diseases, and why they are not self-limiting via anti-viral immunity. The hypothesis predicts AIDS prevention by adequate nutrition and abstaining from drugs, and even cures by treating AIDS diseases with proven medications.

[Duesberg P, Koehnlein C and Rasnick D 2003 The chemical bases of the various AIDS epidemics: recreational drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy and malnutrition; J. Biosci.28 383–412]

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KEYWORDS: africawatch; aids; hiv; homosexualagenda; realscience
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I met Dr. David Rasnick at this year's Doctor's for Disaster Preparedness conference. He was quite convincing.
1 posted on 09/10/2003 5:02:34 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: AdamSelene235
If AIDS in Africa were random, 98% of prostitutes in Botswana, South Africa, etc. would not be dying. If scientist is so convinced that HIV does not cause AIDS, perhaps he would be willing to inject self with HIV to prove case. Clearly, nothing will happen. Do it for good of the children.
2 posted on 09/10/2003 5:31:29 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: AdamSelene235; EdReform
I haven't finished reading the paper yet, but from what I can gather...there seems to be a strong correlation between being an intravenous drug user and homosexuality. Has anyone done this study?
3 posted on 09/10/2003 6:59:59 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: AdamSelene235
Wow. Duesberg was able to get a paper published? I thought he'd been pretty much drummed out of the scientific community for the last two decades on charges of heresy.
4 posted on 09/10/2003 7:16:20 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: AdamSelene235
Interesting piece of writing. In addition to AID/HIV, I've been skeptical about mad cow disease. The infectious route doesn't seem to follow expected patterns either, but alternate explanations are pooh-poohed. Group-think in any profession can suppress invention.
5 posted on 09/10/2003 7:19:43 PM PDT by Think free or die
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To: Alter Kaker
Most of the African "AIDS" cases are highly questionable since no HIV tests are run, because of the cost. All sorts of wasting-disease deaths (and Africa has a lot of diseases) have been called AIDS, without any direct evidence for that classification.
6 posted on 09/10/2003 7:29:57 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: AdamSelene235
However, the mere potential to resolve the agony of AIDS by alternative hypotheses, such as ours, should be sufficient reason to replace the medieval “peer review system” by a modern jury system without conflicts of interest and with rights for representation and appeals of the applicant. If the current, unproductive AIDS estab-lishment objects, because AIDS-science is too complex to be understood by non-HIV-AIDS scientists, funding should be withheld until the AIDS establishment finds ways to explain the complexity and merits of its expertise to other scientists.

Oh! Now I understand why the good Dr. David Rasnick wrote this garbage. He is trying to get funding and he has an agenda...more than likely a sodomite himself.

Just because science has not found a vaccine for this behavioral disease, does not mean that our methodology is wrong. The mere fact that a huge number of AIDS/HIV patients contracted the disease due to sodomy should be reason enough for Dr. Rasnick to halt his agenda.

Why did he not mention that people should not do drugs or even take the gigantic leap of telling people not to commit sodomy. Abstinence is your friend.

There are recent studies that suggest that HIV is changing (as expected. There are now distinguishable strains that are found in America, Europe, and Africa. Maybe edreform or scripter could post the link.

7 posted on 09/10/2003 7:31:22 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: AdamSelene235
Bump
8 posted on 09/10/2003 7:35:22 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's now the Al Davis GOP...........................Just Win Baby !!!)
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To: Alter Kaker
A one person test would be meaningless. Surely many of the hordes of Liberals, Gays, Lesbians, Transgendered, et al will eagerly volunteer.

WIth such widespread selfless interest in pure science ,this question be solved.
9 posted on 09/10/2003 7:35:25 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: PatrickHenry
patrick...I think this paper would be good for the scientists on the ping list...they can see what passes for science at U.C. Berkeley.
10 posted on 09/10/2003 7:37:22 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: I got the rope
Nah. I suspect this is a thread oriented toward gay and drug issues. I've never seen the evo crowd evidence any interest in such threads, or in AIDS. I try to keep my pings to a minimum, so I sometimes just play hunches, and use my personal taste in topics. Go ahead and ping anyone you like, but I'm not going to use my list for this thread.
11 posted on 09/10/2003 7:51:10 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: GladesGuru
A one person test would be meaningless.

Oh really? I don't think so. Take one healthy, heterosexual white American and inject HIV. If HIV causes AIDS man will get AIDS. If HIV does not cause AIDS, man will not get AIDS. If you have nothing to fear, do it. You will save many lives and much money.

12 posted on 09/10/2003 7:51:29 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: CholeraJoe
FYI
13 posted on 09/10/2003 8:25:26 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: AdamSelene235
HIV Does Not Cause AIDS says Doctors' Group
Report By Becky Blanton
HIV does not cause AIDS. That was one of the most startling pieces of information to come out of the 21st Annual Meeting of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness (DDP), held recently in Phoenix, Arizona July 19.

Dr. Donald W. Miller, Jr. an attendee at the meeting, said “It’s a shocking statement but it will very likely prove to be true,” Miller said of the claim.

“Once people realize this is true, it will turn the way things are done on its head.”

Those who contract AIDS, not those who contract HIV, are the patients who die. The conventional wisdom about HIV is that once a person has HIV they will automatically and eventually get AIDS. That, Miller says, is simply not true.

The meeting, entitled, "21st Century Threats and Conflicts," was organized by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons – AAPS – considered, Miller noted, the “pro-market, libertarian alternative to the American Medical Association.”

“It’s a small organization,” Miller said, “But there are some very notable members.”

Miller himself is a cardiac surgeon and Professor of Surgery at the University of Washington in Seattle and a member of Doctors for Disaster Preparedness.

Dr. Peter Duesberg, a professor of Molecular and Cell Biology at the University of California, Berkeley, another attendee, was the man who isolated the first cancer gene in his work with retroviruses. The AIDS virus is also retrovirus.

Dr. David Rasnick, a professor of Molecular and Cell Biology at UCB, presented the evidence on his AIDS research, Miller said.

The evidence isn’t totally new, Miller said. But it is hotly contested, “If you can find someone willing to debate facts, you're lucky. Most won't. They can't."

Rasnick and Duesberg, have written a book entitled: "The AIDS dilemma: drug diseases blamed on a passenger virus" (1998).

The men have co-authored another book entitled: "The chemical bases of the various AIDS epidemics: recreational drugs, anti-viral chemotherapy and malnutrition" (2003), with Claus Koehnlein. “You don’t hear a lot about it (this evidence),” Miller said. “What you do hear is Rasnick is a kook or Duesbuerg is way out. They attack the messenger and discard the message.”

Not everyone is so reluctant to listen.

According to Miller, the premier of South Africa was very interested in the message. “He (the premier) was somewhat annoyed that the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) wouldn’t debate this,” Miller said. “He wanted to know what to do about this problem. Well, the people in South Africa don’t have sex anymore than anyone else, probably less than most. They certainly can’t afford the AIDS test. So, how do they know what the percentage really is? If someone loses weight or get pneumonia they say they have AIDS,” he said.

“Based on a ruling by the World Health Organization, people in Africa can be diagnosed as having AIDS without having to have an HIV test. According to Miller, twenty-three years ago the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reported that a growing number of male homosexuals and intravenous (IV) drug users were experiencing a mysterious epidemic of diseases, which included several odd types of pneumonia, a rare malignant tumor called Kaposi’s sarcoma, lymphoma, dementia, tuberculosis, weight loss (anorexia), fever, diarrhea, etc. The CDC defines the epidemic "AIDS" (acquired immunodeficiency syndrome), as comprising 26 different diseases.

From 1981–2001 AIDS has afflicted 800,000 people in the US, 250,000 in Europe, and 1,000,000 in Africa. In the United States, AIDS strikes young male homosexuals (66 percent of all AIDS cases), male and female IV drug users (32 percent of all AIDS cases, 75 percent of them male), hemophiliacs and other transfusion recipients (1 percent), and children borne to drug-addicted mothers (1 percent).

Miller said the research points not to sexual transmission, but more to long-term drug use. “Well, now we’ve seen that homosexual males use recreational drugs in greater amounts and duration than straight males,” Miller said. The recreational drugs in question are cocaine, heroin, nitrite inhalants and amphetamines.

If HIV is not the cause of AIDS, then what is? Miller said Rasnick presented strong evidence in support of the hypothesis that AIDS is caused by three things, singly or in combination:

1) long-term recreational drug use (cocaine, heroin, nitrite inhalants, and amphetamines); 2) the anti-viral drugs (DNA chain terminators, like AZT, and protease inhibitors) that doctors prescribe to people who are HIV positive; and 3) especially in Africa, malnutrition (and lack of drinkable water). The noninfectious chemical bases for AIDS is supported by a lot of important data, facts like this one: HIV-positive people treated with anti-viral drugs have an annual mortality rate of 6.6–8.7 percent, compared with an annual mortality of 1.4 percent in HIV-positive people who refuse treatment with anti-viral drugs.

Over the last 20 years the US government has carried out a program to eradicate the HIV virus. They’ve used 100,000 government-funded doctors and scientists and have cost taxpayers more than $100 billion. “There’s growing evidence,” Miller said, “that the premise upon which this eradication program is founded is wrong.”

The good news the evidence shows that those who do have HIV can lead long, healthy lives. "It's like having herpes," he noted. "It's not the best thing, but it's not the end of the world."

“Those with HIV need to stop the drug use, eat healthy and live healthy lives,” Miller said. “Having HIV is not a death sentence,” he said. It’s not a message the mainstream media is likely to pick up on however.

“The media, if you read the articles out there, always links HIV with AIDS,” Miller said. “You don’t read HIV or AIDS by itself. It’s always HIV/AIDS, and that’s just not accurate,” he said.

Re-education is only part of the problem. Getting the drug companies to let go of the $1,000 a month per person, or $12,000 per person per year money they’re making on each person prescribed the AZT cocktail will be hard.

Getting hospitals and other medical facilities to change their protocols will also prove difficult. Miller, who is a surgeon, has seen the problem first hand.

“In surgery I’ve seen nurses get stuck or cut with something sharp,” he said. “When we’re working on a patient with HIV, the protocol is that they immediately start the AZT drugs. They do and they feel awful. I told them, don’t take them.”

It’s radical , but Miller believes the statistics back him up. “The mortality rate has proven to be so much higher for those taking the drugs than not,” he said.

For more information and professional papers on HIV and AIDS visit Dr. Millers website: www.donaldmiller.com.
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14 posted on 09/10/2003 8:33:40 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: I got the rope
Why did he not mention that people should not do drugs

Well if you read the friggin paper you would know he does exactly that.

15 posted on 09/10/2003 8:40:31 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: Alter Kaker
Oh really? I don't think so.

Then you are an idiot.

Take one healthy, heterosexual white American and inject HIV. If HIV causes AIDS man will get AIDS. If HIV does not cause AIDS, man will not get AIDS.

"take one healthy male, and shoot him with a bullet. If bullets cause death, man will die. If bullets do not cause death, man will not die."

Idiot.

I believe that AIDS is caused by HIV, but some people have multiple exposures, and are never infected, whereas others have one (known) exposure and die.

suggesting that a single test proves anything proves only that you are an idiot.

16 posted on 09/10/2003 8:42:15 PM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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To: Alter Kaker
If AIDS in Africa were random, 98% of prostitutes in Botswana, South Africa, etc. would not be dying.

Source?

17 posted on 09/10/2003 8:45:40 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: Alter Kaker; secretagent
There are hundreds, if not thousands of now dead, heterosexual, American and Canadian males who carried out this experiment years ago. They suffered from hemophilia and were injected with Factor VIII and IX from HIV infected donors. It's already an established fact that HIV tainted blood can cause AIDS.

Furthermore, there is a doctor who attempted to kill his female lover by injecting her with HIV-tainted blood. She developed AIDS-related symptoms after the injection. He is currently serving a 40 year sentence at the Louisiana State Penitentiary, Angola, LA. His name is Richard Schmidt.

State and Federal courts have repeatedly ruled that HIV is the cause of AIDS and that those who intentionally infect others are guilty of assault with intent to kill.

The authors of this study are seriously deluded, if not psychotic.

SA, thanks for the ping. I spent the better part of 98, 99 and 2000 beating this drum here on FR.

18 posted on 09/10/2003 9:01:05 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (In other news: Cruz Bustamante will neither confirm nor deny that he's a racist.)
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To: I got the rope
Oh! Now I understand why the good Dr. David Rasnick wrote this garbage. He is trying to get funding and he has an agenda...more than likely a sodomite himself.

Let see which is more likely to result in funding: A. jump on the multi-billion dollar AIDS research gravy train or B. adopt some utterly heretical view calling into question the legitmacy of A.

You obviously haven't written many research proposals.

19 posted on 09/10/2003 9:05:17 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: I got the rope
...there seems to be a strong correlation between being an intravenous drug user and homosexuality.

There are strong correlations between amyl nitrate abuse (used to facilitate anal sex) and Kaposi's sarcoma. They used to spray the floors of gay discos with amyl nitrates.

Long term IV drug use also can result in immune system failure. There are numerous refs at the end of the paper.

20 posted on 09/10/2003 9:07:58 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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