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To: Amerigomag
The basis of their membership is cultural. They are Hispanic and can principally trace their ancestory to Mexico. Most (over 85%), are the consequence of illegal immigration.

It may be cultural, but let me tell you, when it hits the fan, the descriptions going out on police frequencys are not cultural descriptions. They are generally clear physical descriptions.

And I am confident that innocent victims of these brutal, murdering gangs are really not concerned about their ancestory or there culture.

214 posted on 09/09/2003 5:49:21 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (Stop it, your killing me.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
They are generally clear physical descriptions

For what it's worth in my neck of the woods (central California) that main descriptors are Hispanic male, white male or black male. Two refer to skin color and one to culture.

In California, on state government forms, the traditional term white has been replaced by the term non Hispanic white

217 posted on 09/09/2003 6:00:20 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: Joe Hadenuf
It may be cultural, but let me tell you, when it hits the fan, the descriptions going out on police frequencys are not cultural descriptions. They are generally clear physical descriptions.

It's kind of interesting. If someone guesses "white" shooters, that okay --- no one calls them a racist. It's okay to speculate as long as you speculate Columbine type spoiled white kids. It's even okay to speculate white kids doing a drive-by shooting even though I'm not sure there have been any cases of that ever.

It's also pretty interesting no one speculated immigrants from India or any other kind of Asians might be the shooters. No one even speculated Arab Muslim kids doing a drive-by shooting.

228 posted on 09/09/2003 6:58:10 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Joe Hadenuf
And I am confident that innocent victims of these brutal, murdering gangs are really not concerned about their ancestory or there culture.

If they are innocent. Around here the gangs don't cooperate with the police even when they're victims because they'd rather plan their own revenge ---- with another shooting. And they're usually fairly careful to make sure they get back at the right group --- ancestry and all.

230 posted on 09/09/2003 7:07:28 PM PDT by FITZ
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