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Historical and economical facts for the Liberals.
SEPTEMBER 8 2003 | JVERITAS

Posted on 09/08/2003 9:24:28 PM PDT by jveritas

Below are some very important historical facts and statistics that put things in perceptive so it can show the ignorance of Liberals about history and facts. Also to reveal that all what the liberals say against President Bush on the war on Terror is based on pure hate and not on a single iota of truth, facts, or logic.

(1) WW II lasted from December 1941 to May 1945. Overall a total of 17 million men fought in WW II. The population of the United States in WWII was roughly 135 millions. In the war on terror since October 2001 until August 2003 roughly 300 thousand military men and women have participated so far including both the Afghanistan and the Iraqi theaters as well as other places in the world. The population of the United States in 2003 is approximately 285 millions.

(2) The human military cost of WW II from December 1941 to May 1945 was 292,131 soldiers. The war on Terror since October 2001 until now has cost around 320 soldiers in both the Afghan and Iraqi theaters.

(3) The cost of WW II from December 1941 to May 1945 was $ 285 billions in 1940’s money. It is equivalent in 2002 money is 2,900 billions. From 1941 to 1945 the United States annual GDP was roughly $ 300 billions. In WWII every American man, woman, and child paid the equivalent of $ 20,388 in today’s money to cover the cost of the war. The Marshall plan to build Europe after WW II was $ 13.1 billions. This is equivalent to over $ 132 billions in today’s money and most of the money went to no else then France and Germany. Since October 2001 until August 2003 the war on terror worldwide including the Afghan and the Iraqi fronts has cost us so far $ 80 billions and the President has asked for another $ 87 billions. All these numbers include the military expenses, the intelligence expenses and the infrastructure rebuilding of Iraq and Afghanistan. We will get our money from Iraq one way or another by having using firms building its infrastructure and have excellent oil contracts in Iraq. The United States GDP is 10.5 trillion dollars as of year 2002.

(4) In regards to the economical and military power of the Liberals European friends here are some facts:

France population is approximately 60 millions with a total GDP of 1.4 trillions dollars as per year 2002. Its military budget is 45 billion dollars.

Germany population is approximately 83 millions with a total GDP of 2.2 trillions dollars as per year 2002. It s military budget is roughly 35 billions.

Russia population is approximately 142 millions with a total GDP of 1.2 trillions dollars as per year 2002. its military budget is approximately $ 40 billions.

These three countries has a total population of approximately 285 millions with a total cobined GDP of 4.8 trillions dollars. Their combined military budget is 120 billions dollars.

The United States has a population of approximately 285 millions with a total GDP of 10.5 trillions dollars i.e. 2.33 times larger than France, Germany and Russia combined. Our military budget is approximately $ 280 billions i.e. 2.33 times larger than the military budget of France, Germany and Russia combined.

These are the countries that the Liberals think about it as the very important allies and international community. France who lost over 11,000 people in a heat wave because they are poor, they do not have air conditioners, and their socialist medical system is so messed up to save their own people. Germany who reduced its forces in Afghanistan dramatically after they lost few soldiers. Russia who still struggle in Chechnia and cannot win over a militia over there.

These are the facts and the truth. Please share it with your friends so we can defeat the Liberals.

GOD BLESS AMERICA


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To: mtbopfuyn
320 is the total deaths, right? Including the ones who shoot themselves in their own sleeping bags and accidents in general, not just those killed in combat? I think the actual combat deaths is 70-something for Iraq and Afghanistan is less.

Liberal California has more deaths per day than Iraq. Maybe they should remove the plank from their own eye first before condemning Bush, aye?

21 posted on 09/09/2003 5:55:53 AM PDT by concerned about politics (Lucifers lefties are still stuck at the bottom of Maslow's Hierarchy)
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To: jveritas
If you are trying to prove a point with "historical Facts", and you blow some of the very basic issues - end of war (wrong date). Not to mention the fact that WWII really started in 1939, not December, 1941 - check with the Poles, Russians, French & Chinese. These countries carried the load until the US got dragged into the conflict.

When your facts are incorrect - how can your analysis & teaching be any good?
22 posted on 09/09/2003 5:58:08 AM PDT by familyofman
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To: yoe
Yes I believe it was illegitimate.
23 posted on 09/09/2003 6:18:37 AM PDT by bluester
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To: concerned about politics
I agree. The Serbs in the end got rid of Milosevic themselves through elections without foreign assistance. Bombing civilian infrastructure, bridges does not bring democracy or punishment for war criminals....
24 posted on 09/09/2003 6:21:30 AM PDT by bluester
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To: yoe
Afghanistan, yes because of the Taliban (Bin Laden) and for Sept/11, as for Somalia I couldn't really judge. But for Iraq, i have no hesitation calling it what it is....
25 posted on 09/09/2003 6:24:01 AM PDT by bluester
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To: bluester
The Japnese attacked us on December 7th 1941 because they want to establish their empire in the Pacific and they do not want us there. On Spetember 11th 2001, the terrorists attacked us because they do not want us to exist on the face of the planet. The war on terror that includes Iraq and the whole of the Middleast is very ligtimite. We are fighting for our way of life this time.
26 posted on 09/09/2003 3:09:17 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: familyofman
For us the real war started on December 7th 1941 when the Japanese attacked us in Pearl Harbor. Before that we were helping supplying the British with arms so they can resist Hitler and by our help they did not fall to Hitler. In regards to the French, they were cowards as usual and they did not fight but rather they surrendered on May 1940. The Chinese did nothing to stop the Japanese since they invaded Manchuria in 1931. Poland was the first country to fall in Europe under Nazi Germany in September 1939 and it took the Germans only three weeks to invade it. Stalin and Hitler were allies then and they split Poland between them. The Russian front started in June 22 1941 and not in 1939, when Hitler launched operation Barbarossa. It was our huge arms donations to the Russian that contributed greatly in their victory on the Eastern Front. For your own information the United States gave the Soviet Union over 15000 tanks from 1941 to 1945.

You need to read my liberal friend or you may need to watch the History channel. I know that my statistics really upset you because they are very true and you liberals cannot handle facts and truth. Go get some education in history.

27 posted on 09/09/2003 3:31:22 PM PDT by jveritas
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To: jveritas
What does Iraq have to do with Sept/11,terroris, Bin Laden and Al Qaida, except for the fact that Bin Laden hated Saddam and his secular regime and the fact that Iraq was far from the religious fanatism of Saudi Arabia and some other states?
28 posted on 09/10/2003 4:48:37 AM PDT by bluester
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