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To: jwalsh07
Now that's a normal conversation, thank you. Are we talking about the same "he", Roman Polanski or not?

No, we do not. Judy has implied that the girl may have consented to the intercourse. My point was that to explicate the notion of "statutory rape;" that is, even if she were to say yes, it would still be considered rape. So "he" referred to a generica perpetrator of a statutory rape.

I am actually unfamiliar with the detaild of the Polanski's case, and for that reason would not be speaking about it.

See, when you ask a question rather than rush to judgment --- or even worse, resort to name-calling --- you find that you and I have no disagreements.

59 posted on 09/08/2003 5:48:22 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: TopQuark
Then I apologise and I hope your questions about trees, jungles and hip hop were not meant in a racial vein.
60 posted on 09/08/2003 5:50:53 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: TopQuark; judywillow; JHrules
Since people seem to have been suckered in by the "statutory rape" misdirection, let's post an account from WorldNetDaily with some details:

According to his friendly biographer, Thomas Kiernan, "Before getting out his cameras, Polanski broke open a bottle of champagne The youngster hesitated, telling him that the last time she had drunk champagne it had made her violently ill. She was asthmatic, she said that the bubbly had brought on an asthma attack."

Polanski reassures the 13-year-old child, saying French champagne "could never hurt you." She takes a glass to please him. She is waiting to see Jack Nicholson. Soon "she felt her lungs beginning to constrict." Polanski says "jump in hot tub It make you feel better."

"I really don't feel good," she said. "I knew I shouldn't've had champagne She complained again about her dizziness and shortness of breath He gave her a tablet and told her to take it, assuring her that it would counter the effects of the champagne."

According to the police report, "dutifully, the girl swallowed the tablet Polanski had also neglected to tell her that the tablet was not an antiasthma pill but a high-potency [illegal] Quaalude from his own pocket The girl was in a deep champagne-Quaalude daze slipping into unconsciousness."

"She was shivering and ashen and weeping I'm sick," she mumbled drunkenly. I want to go home my father gasping for breath in shrill, raspy heaves. Mucus spilled from her nostrils."

Polanski was suddenly concerned. The child had lost control of her bladder. "It would be unspeakable for him to be involved in the death of a naked American teenager He realized [she] was in the throes of a potentially fatal seizure".

She was feverish. Polanski "wondered whether he should call an ambulance or the police. He decided to wait, more out of his own drug-induced panic than considered judgment."

Shortly thereafter, the skillfully manipulative Polanski brutally cursed as he painfully sodomized and then raped the sick and half unconscious girl. "With her breathing still impaired by the effects of the Quaalude and champagne, she immediately gagged and retched. She tried to scream but couldn't produce a sound."

I have redacted the most evil of Polanski's atrocities.

This was not simply statutory rape. It would have been rape if she were 20. I'm willing to cut a guy some slack after his pregnant wife was murdered by Charly Manson but this goes way beyond my slack limit.

70 posted on 09/08/2003 6:08:05 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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