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communism is Good (ZOT!)
John reseda

Posted on 09/08/2003 10:32:09 AM PDT by Paul Flesch

Edited on 09/08/2003 10:45:19 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Paul Flesch
Public school education, I'm guessing?

At least you are honest about your communism most lefties are not so honest.

41 posted on 09/08/2003 10:40:20 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (Life is like a jar of jalapenos, what you do today can burn your @$$ tomorrow.)
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To: Paul Flesch
We did this one the other day.
42 posted on 09/08/2003 10:40:45 AM PDT by Consort
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To: camle
India hates it when her daddy is dissed.
43 posted on 09/08/2003 10:40:54 AM PDT by rintense (9-11-01: Never Forget.)
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To: Paul Flesch
I wonder if, when I hit the post button, I'll get posted, or see the ZOT notice ....

Here goes......

Hb
44 posted on 09/08/2003 10:41:13 AM PDT by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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To: Paul Flesch
Reading and writing classes are good. Consider investing in some.
45 posted on 09/08/2003 10:41:16 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
Correction: Emil Faber


46 posted on 09/08/2003 10:41:21 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Paul Flesch
everyne has there on opnion

Translation: I'm too stupid to live

47 posted on 09/08/2003 10:41:44 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Paul Flesch
Communism is good, because if it weren't for communism; democracy would [not] have existed. You might ask why? Because they have the same idea. Repulicans are the rich and wealthy who never want to help the poor or the ones in need. Communists and Democracy do [help the poor]. Democracy lets you say the truth, and because of the truth communism exists in the world. Cuba has been communist since Fidel Castro has been around. If it weren't for the great Che-Guevara, Fidel wouldn't have made it. My main point is, communism is the best. They live good. Even though they have strict laws they follow them. I have never heard in the news that there are riots or there has been a murder [in communist lands]. Why? Because communism is controlled and works. Democracy doesn't work neither do republican [ideas]. Because every day in the freaking news I hear murder and riots and God knows what. If you want to find out more about communism go to www.che-lives.com and www.cheguevara.com. Peace out guys and everyone has their own opinion. Ok, peace out. Here's my e-mail: fear_no_pain@hotmail.com



Okay, I did the editing as best I could but it still makes no sense. Very interesting and thought provoking post. Now for some discussion questions:

1. Do drug use and communism mix?

2. Define the different between Democrat and Democracy.

3. Why are any of us spending time with this?
48 posted on 09/08/2003 10:48:14 AM PDT by mongrel
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To: dighton
Ok, ok, I restored it. Now put the gun down, please.
49 posted on 09/08/2003 10:49:43 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: IowaHawk
And I quote:
Communism is good because if it wasnt for communism demcorcy would have existed u might ask why beacause myoslt they have the same idea repulicans are th rich and wealthy who never want to help the poor or the ones in need communis and democrtacy does democracy lets u say the truth and because of the truth communism exists in the world cuba has been communist since fidl castro has been around and if it wasnt for the grea Che-Guevara fidel wouldn have made it . but my main point is Communism is the best they live good even thought they have strict laws they follow it i have never heard in the news that there are riots or there has been a murder why because communism is controled and works. Democracy doenst work nither does republican because every day in the freaking news i hear murder and riots and god know what. if u want to find out more about communism go to www.che-lives.com and www.cheguevara.com peace out guys and everyne has there on opnion ok peace out heres my e-mail fear_no_pain @ hotmail.com

50 posted on 09/08/2003 10:50:14 AM PDT by dighton (NLC™)
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To: rintense
Bye Laz. Twas nice knowing ya.

It was??

51 posted on 09/08/2003 10:50:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Paul Flesch
If you are a fan of commies, you must LOVE the Nazis.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/630472/posts

A Little Secret About the Nazis
They were left-wing socialists. Yes, the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany, otherwise known as the Nazi Party, was indeed socialist, and it had a lot in common with the modern left. Hitler preached class warfare, agitating the working class to resist ``exploitation'' by capitalists -- particularly Jewish capitalists, of course. Their program called for the nationalization of education, health care, transportation, and other major industries. They instituted and vigorously enforced a strict gun control regimen. They encouraged pornography, illegitimacy, and abortion, and they denounced Christians as right-wing fanatics. Yet a popular myth persists that the Nazis themselves were right-wing extremists. This insidious lie biases the entire political landscape, and the time has come to expose it.

Richard Poe, editor of Frontpage Magazine, sets the record straight:

Nazism was inspired by Italian Fascism, an invention of hardline Communist Benito Mussolini. During World War I, Mussolini recognized that conventional socialism wasn't working. He saw that nationalism exerted a stronger pull on the working class than proletarian brotherhood. He also saw that the ferocious opposition of large corporations made socialist revolution difficult. So in 1919, Mussolini came up with an alternative strategy. He called it Fascism. Mussolini described his new movement as a ``Third Way'' between capitalism and communism. As under communism, the state would exercise dictatorial control over the economy. But as under capitalism, the corporations would be left in private hands.

Hitler followed the same game plan. He openly acknowledged that the Nazi party was ``socialist'' and that its enemies were the ``bourgeoisie'' and the ``plutocrats'' (the rich). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler eliminated trade unions, and replaced them with his own state-run labor organizations. Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler hunted down and exterminated rival leftist factions (such as the Communists). Like Lenin and Stalin, Hitler waged unrelenting war against small business.

Hitler regarded capitalism as an evil scheme of the Jews and said so in speech after speech. Karl Marx believed likewise. In his essay, ``On the Jewish Question,'' Marx theorized that eliminating Judaism would strike a crippling blow to capitalist exploitation. Hitler put Marx's theory to work in the death camps.

The Nazis are widely known as nationalists, but that label is often used to obscure the fact that they were also socialists. Some question whether Hitler himself actually believed in socialism, but that is no more relevant than whether Stalin was a true believer. The fact is that neither could have come to power without at least posing as a socialist. And the constant emphasis on the fact that the Nazis were nationalists, with barely an acknowledgment that they were socialists, is as absurd as labeling the Soviets ``internationalists'' and ignoring the fact that they were socialists (they called themselves the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics). Yet many who regard ``national'' socialism as the scourge of humanity consider ``international'' socialism a benign or even superior form of government.

According to a popular misconception, the Nazis must have been on the political right because they persecuted communists and fought a war with the communists in Russia. This specious logic has gone largely unchallenged because it serves as useful propaganda for the left, which needs ``right-wing'' atrocities to divert attention from the horrific communist atrocities of the past century. Hence, communist atrocities have received much less publicity than Nazi war crimes, even though they were greater in magnitude by any objective measure.

R. J. Rummel of the University of Hawaii documents in his book Death by Government that the two most murderous regimes of the past century were both communist: communists in the Soviet Union murdered 62 million of their own citizens, and Chinese communists killed 35 million Chinese citizens. The Nazi socialists come in third, having murdered 21 million Jews, Slavs, Serbs, Czechs, Poles, Ukrainians and others. Additional purges occurred in smaller communist hellholes such as Cambodia, Vietnam, North Korea, Ethiopia, and Cuba, of course. Communism does more than imprison and impoverish nations: it kills wholesale. And so did ``national socialism'' during the Nazi reign of terror.

But the history of the past century has been grossly distorted by the predominantly left-wing media and academic elite. The Nazis have been universally condemned -- as they obviously should be -- but they have also been repositioned clear across the political spectrum and propped up as false representatives of the far right -- even though Hitler railed frantically against capitalism in his infamous demagogic speeches. At the same time, heinous crimes of larger magnitude by communist regimes have been ignored or downplayed, and the general public is largely unaware of them. Hence, communism is still widely regarded as a fundamentally good idea that has just not yet been properly ``implemented.'' Santayana said, ``Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.'' God help us if we forget the horrors of communism and get the historical lessons of Nazism backwards.

The Nazis also had something else in common with the modern left: an obsessive preoccupation with race. Hitler and his Nazis considered races other than their own inferior, of course. Modern ``liberals,'' who vociferously oppose the elimination of racial quotas, seem to agree. They apparently believe that non-white minorities (excluding Asians, of course) are inferior and unable to compete in the free market without favoritism mandated by the government. Whereas Hitler was hostile to those racial minorities, however, modern white ``liberals'' condescend benevolently. Hitler's blatant and virulent form of racism was eradicated relatively quickly and very forcefully, but the more subtle and insidious racism of the modern left has yet to be universally recognized and condemned.

The media often focuses its microscope on modern neo-nazi lunatics, but the actual scope of the menace is relatively miniscule, with perhaps a few thousand neo-nazis at most in the United States (mostly ``twenty-something'' know-nothings). The number of communists and communist sympathizers in the United States dwarfs that figure, of course -- even among tenured professors! And while the threat of neo-nazi terrorism is indeed serious, the chance of neo-nazis gaining any kind of legitimate political power anywhere is virtually zero. That is why the ACLU can safely use them to advertise its supposed commitment to free speech. Neo-nazi rallies incite violence, but they do not persuade bystanders to join their cause! If they did, the ACLU would have nothing to do with them.


52 posted on 09/08/2003 10:50:43 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Paul Flesch
Listen SENATOR; Why aren't you in there voting on Bushes judges nominations?
53 posted on 09/08/2003 10:51:09 AM PDT by Uncle George
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To: Paul Flesch
Flame On!
54 posted on 09/08/2003 10:51:33 AM PDT by freeper2003
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To: Poohbah; dighton; Chancellor Palpatine
THEY GOT THE ZOT THINGIE FIXED!!

Happy Happy! Joy Joy!
55 posted on 09/08/2003 10:51:46 AM PDT by hchutch (The National League needs to adopt the designated hitter rule.)
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To: hchutch; Poohbah; dighton; Chancellor Palpatine
THEY GOT THE ZOT THINGIE FIXED!!

No they didn't; that's a mirage!

56 posted on 09/08/2003 10:53:13 AM PDT by mhking (Fill it to the top with the cheap taste of slop...)
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To: Paul Flesch
Publick edyoukasshun is wercan!
57 posted on 09/08/2003 10:55:23 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Of course I like it here. I just may not like you.)
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To: Paul Flesch

58 posted on 09/08/2003 10:56:02 AM PDT by Snowy (My golden retriever can lick your honor student)
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To: Paul Flesch
i like comunism to cause i red about it in the Classics Comix version of the comunist manef minafes mannefest buk and its cool cause of those rich peeple who are vilent and stuff will be shot and then society will be non-vilent and we wont have homework or nuthin. like my opnion is as gud as your's because this is a democrisy and you dont have to no nuthin to spek up about it thats what my homeroom teacher sez hes rilly cool and has long hair and a prince albert i seen it once in the mens room and he sez you dont havta spel rite its fashism.
59 posted on 09/08/2003 10:57:10 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Billthedrill
But if you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao
You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow...

Not that our poster needs to worry about that for a few more years...

60 posted on 09/08/2003 10:59:26 AM PDT by dirtboy (www.ArmorforCongress.com - because lawyers with a clue are rarer than truth-telling Democrats)
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