To: wideawake
There's historical blame on both sides. Both sides are locked-in and trapped in hate. And there is no solution.
To: ultima ratio
There's historical blame on both sides.I'm sure there is.
But Israel has uniformly proceeded with a measured military response while the Arabs conduct themselves with unexampled savagery.
Both sides are locked-in and trapped in hate.
I disagree.
Going by the Israeli press, only a small percentage of Israelis seem willing to characterize Arabs as non-human animals. Going by the Arabic press, only a small percentage of Arabs seem willing to admit that Jews are human beings.
And there is no solution.
There is a solution, but precisely because Israelis don't really hate Arabs they can't bring themselves to use the solution.
The solution is to drive all Arabs unwilling to be productive citizens of Israel over the border.
That solution is still more humane that the one the US meted out to Indians who were not willing to be productive members of US society.
Something tells me if Apache terrorists were blowing themselves up in American casinos and strip malls we'd adopt even harsher tactics than Israel has.
39 posted on
09/08/2003 11:03:34 AM PDT by
wideawake
(God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
To: ultima ratio
There's historical blame on both sides. Both sides are locked-in and trapped in hate. And there is no solution.Such a strong definitive statement. Tell me, have you spent much time in Israel? Do you know first-hand what most Israelis think?
Let me tell you, most Israelis, left to center-right, want peace. Most Israelis, Labourite or Likudnik, will make painful sacrifices to have peace. You can only have peace if both sides are willing to have it.
Show me where the Palestinians have ever been willing to compromise?
Israelis are not consumed with hate. Far from it.
Blame? The only reason the Palestinians don't already have their own state is their unwillingness to compromise or to allow Israel to exist in peace:
- After the 1936-37 Arab riots the Peel Commission suggested partitioning Palestine. The Jews accepted this, the Arabs did not.
- In 1947 the U.N. voted to partition Palestine into Jewish and Arab states. The Jews accepted this. The Arabs did not and attacked Israel the very day it declared independence.
- In 1967 the government of Israel offered to return all lands captured in the Six Day War in exchange for peace and diplomatic recognition from the Arab world. The Arab League, meeting in Khartoum, rejected this.
- In 2000 at Camp David Israel offered to withdraw from 91% of the West Bank and all of Gaza, and to divide Jerusalem, creating a Palestinian state. Yasser Arafat rejected this, and instead started a war in October, 2000.
- Later in 2000, at Taba, Ehud Barak offered 97% of the West Bank, all of Gaza, compensatory land in the Negev (Israel proper), and to divide Jerusalem. Yasser Arafat rejected this as "insufficient" and continued his terrorist war against Israel.
- In 2003, as Israel was about to turn over four more cities to Palestinian control under the terms of the Road Map, which called for a Palestinian state, a bus carrying Jewish families home from worship at Judaism's holiest site was bombed, killing 22 innocent people and ending the peace process once again.
Tell me, how is Israel to blame? What historical fact can you use to justify the Palestinians refusal to compromise and live in peace with Israel?
The Palestinian people suffer mightily because of their own leadership.
40 posted on
09/08/2003 11:09:22 AM PDT by
anotherview
("Ignorance is the choice not to know" -Klaus Schulze)
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