[veronica]

Wow. Some startling good sense from Martin Peretz. :)

[jonalvy44]

agree 100%...I'm still waiting for Israel to finally take out Syria and end this madness. They are behind Hamas, Hezbollah, etc.

[Kenton]

One thing I've noticed is how quickly the suicide bombings decline whrn the IDF goes after the terrorists like they have been doing with Hamas.

Guess it's hard to recruit "martyrs" when you're scurrying around the rat-holes trying to avoid "martyrdom" yourself.

[chimera]

One of the fundamental and actionable principles of Zionism is that Jewish blood is no longer cheap. It follows that the shedding of Jewish blood will not pass without an accounting, without being avenged. And not just for vengeance's sake. But to bring about the elimination of the organized blood sport in Jewish lives.

The Jews of Europe in the 1930s and 1940s realized this too late, and paid a terrible price. They tried, as some do today (especially in America), advocating a policy of appeasement and cooperation with their murderers. That only begets more bloodshed and eventual wholesale slaughter, since the murderers sense weakness, indifference, and resignation among their victims.

The second anniversary of 9/11 is approaching, and while it is a time for remembering our own dead, we should also use the occasion to remember those relatively few among many of the Jews of Europe who resisted the Nazi swine and refused to go to their deaths like cattle to the slaughter. The rebellion in the ghetto of Warsaw, the uprising of the prisoners in the extermination camp at Treblinka, and the breakout at Sobbibor, showed that resisting the barbarian, even at the cost of one's life, is worthwhile if it shows the way of courage and resolve to future generations.

[yonif]

Israel's longtime enemy, and its enemy today, is of the very same terror that was launched on us on Sept. 11, but, if less confounding, more routine and more tolerated. It is the world's acceptance of the routinization of this killing of Jews that has so affronted Israel and its allies.

[happygrl]

The United States is in great measure responsible for the moral ambiguity of peace-making between Israel and the Palestinians. The Palestinian strategy is terror, pure and simple, like the terror of Al Qaeda and whoever bombed the center of Bombay on Aug. 25. George W. Bush has not quite admitted this, but he has come close. Still, his diplomats behave as if there are two different categories of terror: one with which we can never compromise and another that we will reward with a state.

This is a bankrupt program, both morally and practically.

The reasonable solution to the Palestine question has always been a partition, and there have been various partition plans proposed since the first one enunciated by Winston Churchill in 1922. Each and every one of them has been rejected, by the surrounding Arab states and by the Palestinians.

History moves forward, but not the Arabs.

The fervor for Hamas and Islamic Jihad among the Palestinians is an expression of that rejectionism. The martyrology that attends it shows also that it is quite mad.

BUMP!

[Light Speed]

The bottom line is this...and it is as Milton's Quote on Revenge ....." a dish..Best served cold"

The number of Israeli's killed ..maimed and wounded..is low.

**Not by my perception..but by Israels Gov.

The numbers rival car accident figures..and other such fudgeable numerics.

Israeli's are "Breast Feed" thru their Social/Commie media that the best struggle is to quietly die for the nation...and the nations best course..is to let the World..

Tire itself out..whilst trying to kill Jews

Israel defends itself..But enables Murderous Hamdi..to have his little Killing,maiming spree's.

Why?

Better to let the Muslims have their anger and revenge..control it...heck..scale it.

Oslo...Golan give back...Saudi Peace Plan...War on Terror...Road Map.

For Israeli's..these are the poster signs outside the Funeral hall.

All of it means nothing....Israeli knows within him/herself..they will be going to more funerals each year..but not really alot of them.

Look at the death swath France just cheese monkeyed its way thru ..11,000 dead from the heat wave.

Israel never gets its ass kicked that bad..not do they ever let that many of their populace "Buy the Farm".

Its a strange reality...

So if some Israeli's perish and are maimed each year..most of the Muslim world will be satisfied..read their blood lust newspapers..drink tea...and crow about their vaunted whatever.

No end to this reality.

Muslims are not stupid either...going on Israel with no U.S. to hold them back is CERTAIN ANNIHILATION.

Aslong as Islam **Knows..it is allowed to kill and maim..just so many..they will play the endless game.

Course too..if you follow the Prophetic track...the Endless game does run off the rails..WW-III.

Until WW-III then...

[TexanToTheCore]

The price already paid by the Arab sector is substantial. Their political and economic outlooks have been seriously compromised by their obsession with this small piece of land and a small but brave population of Jews.

The eventual cost to the Arab world could be stunning and many Arab elites realize this which is why they pay lip service to the Plai cause but don't actually do anything to really help them.

For example:

If they push the Jews into the sea (their words, not mine) what chance is their for Mecca and Medina?

Answer:

None whatsoever. Mecca and Medina will disappear in fireballs, becoming a mere memory in the collective psyche of the Muslim community.

All who have attacked Israel have suffered. Generations have suffered.