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To: ohioWfan
Sad, alright...... I don't believe them, and I don't believe you.

Lady, frankly I'm to the point I could care less what you believe. I have attacked no one, merely stated my position and my belief. I have seen some of the most venomous posts from the side of 'right' I have seen on FR in a long time. Call me names, that's about all I've seen from some posters supporting the war. I present facts, I get back 'well the President said so' with no documentation other than perhaps Fox News, Rummy reports, and PNAC lackeys. I believe in this nation of states, however I believe in the document that established this nation moreso than a symbol, a moment, or one person. I have said nothing hateful or vengeful about the President of these United States other than call into question the reasoning and the arguments presented to the citizens of the respective states.

I have never had my conservatism called into question in real life. Unfortunately of late in the general public, I see conservatism is dead and has been for awhile. Partisanship is more important. "Our" guy's in so we believe anything he says. I stand for a conservatism that sad to say I believe is either gone from this nation of states for good or quickly on the way out. A centralized nationalism focused on one man, one imperfect man (whatever party) has taken its place. And Franklin rolls over in his grave

And FWIW, whether you believe me or not, I do hope your son comes home safely

249 posted on 09/08/2003 8:25:19 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: billbears
FWIW, don't waste your keystrokes on the likes of that.
250 posted on 09/08/2003 8:29:00 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: billbears
"Our" guy's in so we believe anything he says. I stand for a conservatism that sad to say I believe is either gone from this nation of states for good or quickly on the way out. A centralized nationalism focused on one man, one imperfect man (whatever party) has taken its place. And Franklin rolls over in his grave And FWIW, whether you believe me or not, I do hope your son comes home safely

Here Here! It is every soldiers duty to "not ask why but to do or die". They rely on a free and educated citizenry to ask the "whys". Some just want us to blindly follow our imperial president without question. If Conservatism means worship of the DC "Leader" and blind following then count me out.

253 posted on 09/08/2003 9:43:42 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: billbears
"Lady, frankly I'm to the point I could care less what you believe."


then leave her alone...
254 posted on 09/08/2003 9:51:31 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (RINO = Ridiculous Ideological Nincompoop Obstructionist.... the only TRUE CONSERVATIVES...)
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