Bush Will Seek $87 Billion for Iraq

Reuters via Washington Post ^ | 9-7-03

[dogbyte12]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush will announce on Sunday night that he plans to ask Congress for $87 billion to fund the U.S. military deployment in Iraq and pay for reconstruction, a Republican source said.

The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the money would fund U.S. military operations in Iraq and reconstruction over the coming budget year.

The figure includes assistance for Afghanistan. Bush was to make the request in an 8:30 p.m. EDT address to the nation, the source said.

The figure was at the high end of expectations. Some members of Congress said earlier they expected Bush to get what he asked for but wanted him to detail how long U.S. troops would remain in Iraq and outline a strategy for bringing them home. (snip)

[Timesink]

YAWWWWN, bluester(registered 9/8/03). Pulling duty in the Dean campaign basment tonight. You all are so transparent.

Half the Deanbots in this thread have been registered here for five years. Oh well, at least it makes it easy to throw together a list of who the sleeper agents are so they can be ignored for the next year and a half.

[CMClay]

I think I heard a collective 'thud' across America When Bush said 87 BILLION. He just sealed his own fate in '04.

[hove]

" But tonight's spending was justified."

Wrong! Only a sucker would believe that now that the truth is emerging about Bush's agenda in Iraq. Iraq was not the threat that the administration said they were. Not one shred of evidence ties Iraq to 911. The thousands of Iraqi lives....the hundreds of American Sons and daughters lives.....the billions of hard earned American dollars...and the damage to America's prestige in the world are not justified in Bush's ill advised adventure in Iraq. At this point in time, anybody who cannot discern this fact should be the poster child for the word "sheeple".

[Lovergirl]

Amen. Maybe the Senate can cut back on its spending.

[billbears]

(Of course, you were getting creamed over there because you were spouting nonsense........it's obvious why you came over here to find some 'friends' among the malcontents here......)

If you call insults instead of factual arguments getting 'creamed' I guess so. But when you have no argument other than 'Bush is a good, GOOD man' I guess you don't have much to bring to the table. BTW, I read the transcript and still think it was a useless speech. Keep hoping for them WMDs ummkay?

[sakic]

And on one September morning, two years ago, a handfull of mad criminals cost our economy 1 trillion dollars.

And yet we spend these billions on the war on Iraq when it was Saudi Arabia that knew about in advance, did nothing to warn us, paid for it, and planned that September morning.

[boingo_temp]

That’s and interesting graph, but I disagree with your negative prediction. Actually, that’s about where we are with our dept/mortgage to income ratio =3/1. We’re pretty typical and pretty secure.

Also, I’d like to see that graph adjusted for the cost of maintaining that dept. After all isn’t that the danger, not the amount of dept but the cost?

[boingo_temp]

”If you think this effort in Iraq is so worth the money being spent then why don’t you have the courage to suggest that American taxes should be raised to pay for it?”

The same reason you don’t have the courage to stop beating your wife. (Think about it…)

[boingo_temp]

”Not one shred of evidence ties Iraq to 911. The thousands of Iraqi lives....the hundreds of American Sons and daughters lives.....the billions of hard earned American dollars...and the damage to America's prestige in the world are not justified in Bush's ill advised adventure in Iraq. At this point in time, anybody who cannot discern this fact should be the poster child for the word "sheeple".”

Funny all the things these fools never mention:
- Iraq’s many documented ties to terrorism in general, and terrorists’ common hatred of America
- That from the beginning Bush labeled this a war on “Terrorism”, not al Queda
- How many “hard earned American dollars” and "Sons and daughters lives" were lost on 9/11
- How we could have afforded to place a truly threatening force on Sadam’s border long enough to contain him.
- What kind of support we would have got from Kuwait if they sensed we might not go.
- How politically possible this war would have been if we waited another year.
- How many “Iraqi lives” were saved from the mass graves
- How quiet Syria, Iran, Libya etc.. are with our forces near their borders.
- The benefit to America’s prestige both here and in places that should fear us.
- How to win the war on terror with a WMD equipped untouchable oil rich sponsor ready to act as safe haven for any force we attack.

“Sheeple” come in many colors.

[dogbyte12]

Half the Deanbots in this thread have been registered here for five years. Oh well, at least it makes it easy to throw together a list of who the sleeper agents are so they can be ignored for the next year and a half.

Oh, those of us who are critical of anything the president does, are actually secret sleeper Vermont folk, who registered 4-5 years ago, cheered the president on for the first few years, as a ruse, because of our love of Howard Dean. Wow, those of us who aren't fawning cheerleaders are some nefarious folk.

Somebody on another thread said something that is just so true. The Bush sycophants are just the dopplegangers of the Clintonistas. That is why they get continually amazed when people who attacked Clinton when he was wrong, get shocked when they in turn attack Bush when he is wrong.

Unless revelations has happened and I missed it, the President is not the reincarnation of the Lord, and is fair game to criticize when we believe he is wrong.

The fact that we are spending $120 billion minimum total in Iraq, and don't have one dose of Saddam's anthrax to show for it may not bug you, but it bugs me. I guess that means I should go support Howard Dean in your mind. If the president signs the assault weapons ban and the pill program I should break out the pom-poms too I guess. It's all just strategery.

If you don't criticize the president, he doesn't act. If you just put ice on it, you get rolled over. If the base lets the President know by their silent acquiescence that he can shaft them, he will do so. He is a politician. He is a man. He is human. He is better than what the democraps have to offer, but why settle for a 1/4 loaf, when you can fight for 3/4 of what ya want? Not one veto of any bill yet, spending through the roof.

I am a fiscal conservative. Cutting taxes and raising spending is not fiscally prudent. You either cut both, or you don't touch either. I prefer tax cuts and spending cuts. I am not satisfied with half a loaf here.

[jwalsh07]

President Bush said that Saddam HAD WMD, not that he was capable of them.

I know what he said and I know what Saddam had in his arsenal. It's is only a mystery to yoyo's and leftists.

Along with Billbears, you should pack in a supply of scope because eating your words can leave a nasty taste in your mouth.

By the way friend, David KAy has stated that he has already found WMD. Sorry to disappoint but thats life.

Stay tuned.

[ohioWfan]

Hmmmmm......you are criticizing me for lack of substance, while YOU spent all your time saying that JIMMY CARTER was a GOOD man! LOL!!

Do your malcontent buddies agree with that??

btw, I can't even believe that any intelligent person doesn't believe Saddam had WMD! (What did he use to kill the Kurds with??) The intelligence of countries all over the world said that he had them, and common sense should tell you that he would use them again if he had the opportunity (which we just happened to take from him with the destruction of his brutal regime). How can a (seemingly) intelligent person like you, be missing facts that are so unarguable, and overwhelming??

I wonder what your real motive is in denying reality? What political ideology makes motivates you to miss the obvious? Most people claiming what you are.......that there are no WMD, are on the far left.....peaceniks.....academics.....hippies who never grew up...... What quirk of thinking makes you join them in your scorn for George W. Bush? Your love of the Constitution?? Doesn't seem likely.....

btw, you WERE getting creamed over there in your defense of Jimmah.......it was actually pretty funny!

[BlackbirdSST]

Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction, and was in bed with terrorists. Clearly, the evidence suggests that the Administration's claims were not incorrect. Perhaps if you posted to FR more often, instead of slurping down mass-media misinformation, you would know about all this.

You spout this frequently, provide a link to your proof. Show the evidence of WMD. I know, we've only been there a week, a month, no make that 2 month's, oh no sorry make that 4 months, oops sorry again make that 6 months......etc etc etc. Your claims have no credibility! This Administration tested the water just last week on the lack of WMD's and the best way to smooth their own lack of credibility. Repeating the lie doesn't make it so. Blackbird.

[Luis Gonzalez]

OK...tell me how you can stop everyone from entering the country without creating havoc with our economy.

That's exactly what 9/11 was designed to do...to create a desire in the American people to completely shut down our borders, at the cost of our freedom and our economy. And I say at the cost of our freedoms because the moment that I can't invite friends, family, or business associates to come visit, and we stop tourists from coming, we not only significantly hurt our economy, but our psrsonal freedoms as well.

We were attacked, but fighting back is taking the fight to them, and destroying them were they live.

[WillowyDame]

Ok, I am eating crow, but my point stands that we have gotten a lot of false info into the media to try to hurt Bush and his policies.

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the attacks on bush by every dick and harry is almost personal in nature. sometimes i think the media and the attackers forget that bush is a person with felings. it has become simply relentless. he has made some mistakes but he is a human bing. anyway, i felt really bad for him watching him last night; he looked stressed, it also looks like he lost weight. being a POTUS must not be a cake walk. i really feel bad for him and i hope people support him because i know he is trying his best.

it is impressive that bush is willing to ask for help. it shows courage and integrity in the face of all the attacks. bush bashers trying embarrass him for that. it takes a real MAN to do what bush is doing now. no one can accuse bush of letting his pride hurt the country. he is willing to ask for help.
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making changes in policy, acknowledging changes in the flow of a battle and taking the steps that will accomplish your mission and still protect your troops are the signs of a true leader.

[Luis Gonzalez]

The complete lack of substance on your "response" (which was little more than a badly written ad hominem) exposes the fact that you had no rebuttal to my post.

Your logic would have me stand on some sort of misguided "principles" and demand that George W. Bush veto a $400 billion entitlement in the name of "principles", in spite of the fact that you openly acknowledge that the net-net result of that would be to get the geezer vote to shift to a Democrat (you acknlwledged this by your inability to post a cohesive rebuttal), who would in turn reward them by passing a much larger, more encompassing bill, at a higher cost to me.

Bill Clinton's road to the White House was paved with your kind of "principles", you're more dangerous (and more costly) than Democrats.

[ohioWfan]

The answer to your questions..... Reserves.

Your points A, B, and C don't apply to Reserves, who would be doing weekends at home, but have been deployed for as much as a year. BIG difference in cost per soldier.

[ohioWfan]

What kind of a 'conservative' would exult in the prospect of a Howard Dean presidency??

(The 'thud' you heard most likely consisted of the 8 people on this thread....)