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Enforcing the "Right to Die":The Case of Terri Schiavo
Life Issues ^ | August 2003 | Nancy Valko

Posted on 09/07/2003 1:17:49 PM PDT by MarMema

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To: MarMema
More of an 'instructional' nature, for those not familiar with the topic:

Coma and Persistent Vegetative State

A coma is a profound or deep state of unconsciousness. The affected individual is alive but is not able to react or respond to life around him/her. Coma may occur as an expected progression or complication of an underlying illness, or as a result of an event such as head trauma.

A persistent vegetative state, which sometimes follows a coma, refers to a condition in which individuals have lost cognitive neurological function and awareness of the environment but retain noncognitive function and a perserved sleep-wake cycle.

It is sometimes described as when a person is technically alive, but his/her brain is dead. However, that description is not completely accurate. In persistent vegetative state the individual loses the higher cerebral powers of the brain, but the functions of the brainstem, such as respiration (breathing) and circulation, remain relatively intact. Spontaneous movements may occur and the eyes may open in response to external stimuli, but the patient does not speak or obey commands. Patients in a vegetative state may appear somewhat normal. They may occasionally grimace, cry, or laugh.

Is there any treatment?

Once the patient is out of immediate danger, although still in coma or vegetative state, the medical care team will concentrate on preventing infections and maintaining the patient's physical state as much as possible. Such maintenance includes preventing pneumonia and bed sores and providing balanced nutrition. Physical therapy may also be used to prevent contractures (permanent muscular contractions) and orthopedic deformities that would limit recovery for the patients who emerge from coma.

What is the prognosis?

The outcome for coma and vegetative state depends on the cause and on the location, severity, and extent of neurological damage: outcomes range from recovery to death. People may emerge from a coma with a combination of physical, intellectual, and psychological difficulties that need special attention.

Recovery usually occurs gradually, with patients acquiring more and more ability to respond. [Something Michael Schiavo appears to have been leary of and has sought to prevent by withholding rehab therapy that has been allotted for through the malpractice suit settlement. THIS IS MY OPINION, for those monitoring the posts] Some patients never progress beyond very basic responses, but many recover full awareness. Patients recovering from coma require close medical supervision. A coma rarely lasts more than 2 to 4 weeks. Some patients may regain a degree of awareness after vegetative state. Others may remain in a vegetative state for years or even decades. The most common cause of death for a person in a vegetative state is infection such as pneumonia.

Information provided by the National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, National Institutes of Health

81 posted on 09/07/2003 6:51:29 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Pegita
Thank you Pegita. It appears that currently Judge Greer has the final word, since he chose to align against Terri with three against two medical professional opinions on her status.
82 posted on 09/07/2003 6:53:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Pegita
And yet in some of the other cases, doctors have testified that patients had PVS and should be killed, even though these patients were operating wheelchairs, playing cards, and writing letters of their name.
83 posted on 09/07/2003 7:00:08 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MHGinTN
Well if it falls back on Greer I think we may as well just begin praying they give Terri a lot of drugs when they kill her. Without divine intervention, that is.

But I am still holding out hope for the federal court filing.

84 posted on 09/07/2003 7:01:24 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Pegita
Have you further info on kimmie7? We are suffering for news here!
85 posted on 09/07/2003 7:09:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MHGinTN
Kimmie is ok. She just posted to the other thread, the prayer thread, I believe.
86 posted on 09/07/2003 7:11:14 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Pegita
From #81 and the NIH definition:

In persistent vegetative state the individual loses the higher cerebral powers of the brain, but the functions of the brainstem, such as respiration (breathing) and circulation, remain relatively intact. Spontaneous movements may occur and the eyes may open in response to external stimuli, but the patient does not speak or obey commands.

When one reads up on a few of the recent cases where the patient claimed to be in PVS were executed via starvation and withholding fluids, one sees that a move is clearly afoot to change the standard of PVS! Terri is able to follow simple commands, as even one of Greers ghouls attested to!!

87 posted on 09/07/2003 7:14:53 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MarMema
Danke
88 posted on 09/07/2003 7:15:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: MarMema
"Eighty to ninety percent of the cases I see have been improperly diagnosed, often by doctors who are not qualified to make the determination. Unfortunately, that's the real practise in medicine today".

Eighty to ninety percent is a BIG number. How many people are being killed by misdiagnosis?

This is an excellent point. Thank you, MarMema. Good post. Passing it on.


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The press has four days to help save an innocent woman.

They owe Terri that for the years they neglected to investigate this scandal and/or inform "we the people", imho.

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89 posted on 09/08/2003 12:51:17 PM PDT by Ragtime Cowgirl ("We will support our troops and we will keep our word." ~ President Bush, 9/7/03)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Can't the Florida legislature pass a law to make this form of murder illegal?
90 posted on 09/08/2003 7:41:28 PM PDT by Atticus
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To: windchime
Bump
91 posted on 09/09/2003 10:30:53 AM PDT by windchime
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To: All
ping to the big thread...BREAKING NEWS
92 posted on 09/11/2003 9:05:09 AM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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