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To: xrp
Mission by mission, aren't the space shuttles having a more proven success percentage as opposed to Apollo capsules?

Well, we lost one Apollo crew out of sixteen - the first one, in what was intended to be the first shakedown flight.

I think a better comparison would be to Soyuz, which had two fatal accidents (again early on) and over a hundred safe flights ever since.

The problem with the shuttle is that its hazards are inherent in the design and can't be eliminated by any amount of incremental improvement.

16 posted on 09/07/2003 11:29:37 AM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: Charlotte Corday
"The problem with the shuttle is that its hazards are inherent in the design and can't be eliminated by any amount of incremental improvement."

No, the problem is that NASA was not allowed to build the correct design for shuttle due to budget cuts. There is nothing wrong with the concept of reusable spacecraft--the problem is that NASA was never allowed to actually build one.

As just one example that I recall--the NASA engineers wanted to build the shuttle airframe with titanium, but back in those days, titanium was exotic, expensive, and difficult to fabricate and, because of the budget cuts, they couldn't use it. In the intervening time, technology has dropped the price and increased the ease of manufacture so much that today we even make GOLF CLUBS out of the stuff.

27 posted on 09/07/2003 1:24:22 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Charlotte Corday
Well, we lost one Apollo crew out of sixteen - the first one, in what was intended to be the first shakedown flight.

Important to note that the crew of Apollo 1 was killed on the ground, during a practice launch. They never left the ground.

For those not familiar with the Apollo 1 accident click this link.

47 posted on 09/07/2003 2:44:29 PM PDT by WestPacSailor (Sorry folks, this tagline's closed. The moose out front should of told you.)
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