[risk]

>>>> If this story is true, who's the enemy?

For the last year, my Hindu friends have been telling me that the State Department was mistaken in its attempts to whitewash Mushraff's innocence and Pakistan's guilt in fomenting the Taliban's rise to power. Iraq first, they said? Why Iraq now, when Saudi Arabia has financed and Pakistan has deployed an Islamic bomb already?

My stock and standard answer was "Give the president a chance. You haven't seen anything yet."

I'm still waiting. We had a hollow but necessary victory in Iraq, but our enemies are still gathering their forces. The Roadmap proved my Hindu friends were right. Abaas's resignation just makes the proof stronger.

[blam]

"Why Iraq now, when Saudi Arabia has financed and Pakistan has deployed an Islamic bomb already?

Not many people know that.

The Saudi's passed the money through the BCCI bank which also gave money to Jimmy Carter ($13m), Jesse Jackson and Andrew Young.

The Saudi's also have Chinese ballistic missiles deployed now for decades.

[Destro]

correct. We cut off the tail but the lizard still wags the stump -and can grow it back in time.

[WOSG]

The Iraq victory was FAR FROM HOLLOW. ... The center of Arab civilization was for many centuries in Baghdad, and will once again be that way, this time as a Democracy that will forever change the face of Islam.

This is long, long term culture change, but the Iraq Liberation war just speeded up history by about 50 years. The terrorists know this and that is why they are blowing things up in baghdad; if it didnt matter they wouldnt be doing that.

Paki's complicity in the taliban is of historical interest but the key thing is that the taliban have used Pakistan madrasses as recruiting grounds and pakistan
Give the Prez credit on the fact that he is looking at the situation now and not historically, and using what he can of Pakistan's help. It's a balancing act, to not turn them agains tus and thereby turn Pakistan into a nuclear-armed safe haven for terrorists (bad bad bad scenario); we need Pakistan on our side even if it's full of taliban sympathizers, indeed, all the more more because of that.

Sooner or later though, the wahabbi Saudi's, the Iranians ayatollahs and the Paki taliban-lovers have to come to account: Free Lebanon, quit funding palestinian terrorism, quit funding wahabbism, rid kashmir and pakistan of terrorists and al quaeda, give up the bomb (for Pakistan and Iran), and put Iran, SA, and Pakistan on road to freedom, tolerance, and Democracy. A long fight.

[TBP]

The Hindus have their own agenda and it is strongly anti-American. They have refused to provide any cooperation in the War on Terror, while Pakistan has been helping us track down Al Qaeda members and leaders.

In fact, when Pakistan started doing this, India moved troops to the Kashmir border. Their plan worked. They forced Pakistan to divert troops to the border and away from the search for Al Qaeda, then they complained that Pakistan wasn't helping.

Hindustan has had a long history of anti-Americnism.

India votes against us at the UN more often than any country except Cuba. (That's right -- more than Red China!) It voted with the world's tyrannies to throw the United States off the Human Rights Commission.

Last year, India entered into a large oil deal with Iraq. They referred to Iraq as a "strategic partner." They have sold heavy water to Iran.

India was a longtime ally of the Soviet Union, with which it had a 100-year friendship treaty, and supported the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, yet opposed our actions there.

In 1999, according to The Indian Express, the Indian Defense Minister organized and led a meeting with the Ambassadors from Cuba, Red China, Iraq, Russia, Libya, and Serbia aimed at setting up a security alliance "to stop the U.S." He described America as "vulgarly arrogant."

India is not a country to be trusted.

[Jim Noble]

We had a hollow but necessary victory in Iraq, but our enemies are still gathering their forces. The Roadmap proved my Hindu friends were right

Boy, your Hindu frinds are smart!

Pakistan is like Mordor, where armies of orcs are being prepared to storm our cities.

There is no substitute for victory.

[swarthyguy]

Pakistan, along with Saudi Arabia, was one of two countries that hit us on 9.11

The rest is whitewash.

For various reasons, we could not allow the truth about the Attacks implicating these two countries to come out.

State sponsors? Not when the perps are our so called friends.

[swarthyguy]

There's more going on quietly. Ponder the ramifications of this rather unpublicised exercise, and note its location; right on top of Pak Kashmir, Near the Afghani Pamir panhandle, and not too far from the Chinese border.

Googling a map of this area drives it home.

Just a guess, IMO, this may be more than an exercise.

Indian, US special forces hold exercises in Ladakh
Hindustan Times ^



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[GOP_1900AD]

We have been incredibly naive to trust a Beijing bootlicker like Musharraf at all. We should have taken up India's initial post 9/11 offer of alliance without fail, and, stood shoulder to shoulder as we invaded and conquered Pakistan. Unfortunately, in spite of many incorrectly labelling the USA as "an empire" we are the "anti Empire" and incapable of thinking in such stark terms. Such bold and decisive action is not inside our comfort zone; the USA has become the world's super mom, seeking to please all. This shall become our undoing if we do not change. I boldly afront the old Kissingerian philosophy with this adage: "There are true allies and everyone else is an enemy until proven otherwise." Naturally this adage is irreconcilable with multilateralism and globalism. But I suspect I shall be proven correct.