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Getting Israel Right (The flagship of paleoconservatism views the Jewish state)
Chronicles Magazine ^ | August 26, 2003 | Paul Gottfried

Posted on 09/06/2003 9:52:10 AM PDT by quidnunc

Having read (almost daily in the New York Post) that Israel is a “democracy like the United States,” it might be useful to examine this proposition. Note there is nothing wrong, in my opinion, if Israel does not fit the regnant U.S. model, a managerial regime that holds periodic elections, has a mixed economy, and, perhaps most importantly, makes a fetish of diversity. In fact it is not clear that the U.S. has always been what it is now. Up until well into the twentieth century, wide popular support and even Supreme Court decisions favored the view that the U.S. was a Western Christian (and not even Judeo-Christian) country.

What bothers me is not what Israel is but the manner in which its well-wishers blatantly misrepresent it. For them the “only democracy in the Middle East’ is a carbon copy or a perfected form of what they advocate for the U.S. Because they endorse a multi-ethnic America with a swinging-door immigration policy, they wish us to assume that the same is true for Israel. Unfortunately for the comparison, it is not. Israel is an ethnically particularistic state, in which non-Jews exist as second- or third-class citizens. Unlike Jews in the U.S. or England, Israeli gentiles have never achieved (and perhaps never will achieve) prominent places in the military or in government. The Israeli regime was created for and gives preferential rights of citizenship to Jews. Intermarriage between this preferred group and non-Jews can not take place legally in Israel, except in the highly unlikely situation that the non-Jew can arrange to be converted by Orthodox Rabbis. What separates Israel’s majority population from non-Jews, moreover, is perceived as an inborn identity that is passed down from one generation to the next. In their understanding of ethnicity and religious observance, Jews, including Israelis, are far closer to Japanese Shintoists than to American Presbyterians.

A proper analogue for Israel is not multicultural America but Poland in the 1920s, when that newly recreated nation state was under the benign authoritarian direction of Marshall Joseph Pilsudski (see J. Rothschild’s Pilsudski’s Coup d’Etat). Like Israel, Poland was then a reluctant multi-ethnic state, whose Polish majority had to deal with ethnic minorities, constituting about 30% of the total population. Pilsudski’s government, which exercised emergency powers in an unsettled situation, tried to keep the German, Jewish, and Ukrainian minorities from growing dangerously restive but was also happy to see them emigrate. Poland did allow these minorities to vote and provided for at least minimal religious freedom for non-Catholics but also made no pretense of being culturally pluralistic. The Polish state under Pilsudski stressed national solidarity (although not as much as did his Teutonophobic and anti-Jewish opponents among the National Democrats) and kept tightly in Polish hands military and governmental positions.

The parallel being drawn is by no means arbitrary. The Zionist Right, now in power in Israel, has always been led by Polish Jews, some of whom, like Menachem Begin and Zev Jabotinski, admired the Marshall profusely. In 1934 when Pilsudski died of stomach cancer, as Amos Perlmutter tells us in The Life and Times of Menachem Begin (New York: Doubleday, 1987), Revisionist (rightwing) Zionists marched in his funeral cortege, in their paramilitary uniforms. Contrary to what is now heard about the “global democratic” Israeli Right and contrary to the impression conveyed by Walter Laqueur in his History of Zionism, such Zionist founding fathers as Begin and Jabotinski, not to speak of the ultra-nationalist Stern Gang, felt no distaste for authoritarian nationalists. By the 1930’s, as Renzo de Felice explains in Gli Ebrei Italiani sotto il Fascismo, Zionists, and not only their nationalist Right, looked to Mussolini as a successful architect of a national revolution. Revisionist Zionists based and trained their forces in Italy, in preparation for a conquest of Palestine. They continued to extol Mussolini as late as 1936, after he had begun to move into the Nazi German orbit, and hailed his invasion of Ethiopia as a harbinger of their impending conquest of the Arabs. The Herut Party, which was the predecessor of Likud, proclaimed its unswerving intention to incorporate into a Jewish state “both sides of the Jordan.”

Note that Zionist attraction to Fascist Italy came in the early and mid-thirties, before Mussolini had begun to court Hitler. After Hitler’s accession to power, moreover, both he and Pilsudski had called for a unified stand by the European powers against the emerging Nazi dictatorship; Mussolini, a Latin elitist, had also loudly attacked the “German barbarians” for harassing the Jews. It is therefore hard to blame European Jews for seeing in the Duce their champion in his pre-Axis period in the thirties, particularly since at the same time he was opening his borders to Jews refugees from the Third Reich. 

But most Jewish nationalists at that time did not celebrate the pluralistic or multicultural democracy that Jewish organizations now routinely call for and which they identify with Israel. And the state these nationalists helped build continues to reflect the ethnic concerns of its founders, who treated multiethnicity as a burden, rather than as something that, as pluralists would have us believe, “enriches.” The argument I heard as a young man, that Israel has in fact absorbed many nationalities, really won’t do. All of these presumed nationalities are Jewish and, according to the Zionist doctrine, “the entire Jewish people is one.”

Is Israel, one might ask, the kind of polity that its Jewish defenders would want for a Christian America or for a nationalist Europe? And if not, why do Jews have a preferential right to be ethnic nationalists? Does believing that Jews have a right to their own country require for the sake of consistency the acceptance of an English right to an English country? I have asked these questions many times, but honest answers, as opposed to outbursts of sputtering rage, have been few and far between.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Israel
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To: quidnunc
Also, non Jews do rise to positions of power in Israel. For example as far back as 1987 the IDF had it's first Druze general. Also, lots of Christian Arab citizens of Israel volunteer for the IDF, and many rise to high positions. There are entire elite tracker and reconnaisance units made up mostly of bedouin and Druze.

In fact, as of July 13 of this year, General Youssef Michleb, a Druze, is now in charge of Israeli military activity in Gaza, Judea, and Samaria ("The West Bank") for the first time. He was appointed by Shaul Mofaz, a Jew of Persian descent. Israel is a very diverse place, even among Jews who are from places as different as Morocco and Brooklyn, Russia and Ethiopia, or Britain and Burma. There are also lots of foreign resident workers from Thailand especially in agriculture since the Thais don't blow anyone up, also from China, India, the Phillipines, and Romania. Israel has over 1 million Arab Muslim citizens. They have the right to vote and form their own political parties, which is greater than Arab rights in any Arab country. They are only not allowed to call for Jihad and openly support terrorists, which is an understandable limitation. It seems to be the authors biggest complaint!!
21 posted on 09/06/2003 4:34:08 PM PDT by adam_az
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To: zacyak
Umm...how can this be, since Israel doesn't recognise civil marriages, only religious ones?

Israel recognizes non-Jewish marriages. The fact is that a Jew and a non-Jew can get married by a minister or priest, if that's their choice, and that marriage will be recognized.

Mark

22 posted on 09/06/2003 6:58:26 PM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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To: ohiocreek
ohiocreek wrote: why would you so despise fellow conservatives ("paleo" or not) - presumably you share many beliefs as well.

I consider the paloecons to be pariahs who bring nothing but discredit on the conservative movement.

Besides, the Patsies hold too many views with common with the loony left and the anti-globalization anarchists/nihilists for me to consider them to be comrads in arms.

24 posted on 09/06/2003 7:09:26 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
OB "hairy dwarf" graphic


25 posted on 09/06/2003 7:13:51 PM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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To: Theodore R.
I believe he is a radical gay as well.
27 posted on 09/06/2003 7:32:16 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Holden Magroin
I was merely quoting.
28 posted on 09/06/2003 7:33:48 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: ohiocreek
ohiocreek wrote: Who then, apart from the clearly despised authors at Chronicles, would you like to excommunicate?

Pat Buchanan, Taki Theodoracopulos, Eric Margolis, Georgie Ann Geyer, Llewellyn Rockwell and Joseph Sobran would be a good beginning.

29 posted on 09/06/2003 7:34:08 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
Georgie Ann Geyer

This is a quite outspoken journalist -- she is strongly anti-Castro, while the establishment media likes to cozy up to Fidel and smoke his cigars. She was also very anti-communist in regard to Latin America in the past 30 years. I don't think her conservatism extends to domestic affairs, however, except for her opposition to illegal immigration.
30 posted on 09/06/2003 7:38:51 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Theodore R. wrote: Georgie Ann Geyer. This is a quite outspoken journalist -- she is strongly anti-Castro, while the establishment media likes to cozy up to Fidel and smoke his cigars. She was also very anti-communist in regard to Latin America in the past 30 years. I don't think her conservatism extends to domestic affairs, however, except for her opposition to illegal immigration.

She has taken to bashing the Bush administration on a regular basis.

She's a lot like Eric Margolis except she's not stridently anti-American.

31 posted on 09/06/2003 7:43:38 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
Eric Margolis

I have never heard of this person. Who is he?
32 posted on 09/06/2003 8:16:21 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: ohiocreek
The philosophy of the paleoconservatives, if I'm not mistaken, is taken from Kirk, M.E. Bradford, and Richard Weaver proximally, and Jefferson, Calhoun, and John Randolph more distally. These are luminaries of conservative thought, which began long before Kristol and Podhoretz strode onto the scene. -Just an observation, I have no personal interest in these internicine squabbles

Paleoconservatism started at a meeting of John Randolph Society in the 1980's. They may take ideas from various intellectuals before them, but it would be a mistake to assume any agreement.
Kirk was affiliated with the Heritage Foundation not the the Rockford Institute.
Jefferson was a fan of the Jacobins and supported international revoltuion.
33 posted on 09/06/2003 8:30:22 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: quidnunc
I feel a zot coming on.....


34 posted on 09/06/2003 8:38:12 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: Theodore R.
Theodore R. wrote: Eric Margolis. I have never heard of this person. Who is he?

He's an American who writes for the Toronto Sun, where you can find his column on Sundays.

He also writes the occassional column for Buchanan's American Conservative Magazine, and he regularly appears on the CBC to trash the U.S.

He's anti-American as hell.

35 posted on 09/06/2003 8:44:35 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: Optimist
Optimist wrote: I feel a zot coming on.....

I don't know why since the posts have all been civil if spirited.

36 posted on 09/06/2003 8:48:36 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
Buchanan's American Conservative Magazine

I have heard of Pat's magazine but have never seen a copy of it. I will try to find a website for this. Hasn't this been out for a year now? I had forgotten about it, but I see Pat on MSNBC at 5 p.m. Central weekdays.
37 posted on 09/06/2003 8:52:20 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
www.amconmag.com

They only make a few of their articles available on-line.

38 posted on 09/06/2003 8:56:56 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
All I see here among the replies are criticisms demonstrating that the writers had not kept up to date with the goings on in Israel, and a confusion regarding well publicized debates in Israel with regard to advocacies of certain high Orthodox officials with the actual realities that exist in Israel. Admittedly, these are not small items. But the errors in the articles surrounding such, may not necessarily be intended lies.

Now with regard to a specific in the first article, I can imagine under certain circumstances as a young man, becoming overwhelmed with a sick kind of humor on first seeing a horrible event, live from a distance. And then as a tourist marking the maps where it happened, and possibly routing out my trip to the location. Then after realizing the full impact of what I had witnessed, feeling quite sick about my first reactions. That story said nothing significant about those so accused.

Of course Israel has spies in this country. They would be fools not to have them.

39 posted on 09/07/2003 11:59:13 AM PDT by jackbob
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To: quidnunc
Hey! You're still alive. Thanks for the article but I'm actually more happy to see you post.
40 posted on 09/07/2003 12:07:37 PM PDT by Movemout
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