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To: Paul C. Jesup
Lee was the perfect embodiment of .....


Which is what always confused me about Lee. How could such a decent man own slaves? How could he support the slave power? How could he spend 10s of years in the Army, and then resign when his services were most desparately needed?

At least he freed his slaves before the war was over. And at least Grant showed laudible mercy with the captured prisoners, in both Vicksburg and in the surrender terms in Virginia.

Genocide in the west began long before Grant took over. A stone age people wanted to continue to be a stone age people, partly because they always had been. A steam and steel age people also wanted to grow, and use the same land as the stone age people, because they could. It seemed unoccupied, compared to the teaming cities of the east.

I don't know how it could have ended differently. I submit that any indian which didnt care for the competition could have withdrawn to the reservation. There still are indians, so genocide didn't occur. Seneca, Mohawk, Lakota, Apache, Navaho, Hopi, all are still alive.

The fact is, you can keep what you can keep. The indians were unable to keep all the land they had held before the europeans arrived. The native americans conquered the land from the people who were there before, and were in turn conquered by the people who came after.

You may not be interested in War, but War is interested in you.
952 posted on 10/11/2003 2:55:25 PM PDT by donmeaker (Bigamy is one wife too many. So is monogamy.)
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To: donmeaker
Well master hairspliter, Grant owned slaves.

Also, one genocide doesn't make another genocide right.

You remind me of Clinton supporters in that you will defend the most evil acts imaginable and refuse to admit when you are wrong by acting your opposition.

953 posted on 10/11/2003 3:02:39 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: donmeaker
TWO points which point out how IGNORANT you are:

1. Lee NEVER owned a single slave ever. his wife received a few slaves from her family, which Lee UNLAWFULLY freed immediately. (Lee was so POOR when stationed at Fortress Monroe, that her family sent the couple CARE PACKAGES, so that the children wouldn't go hungry. the USA paid military officers almost nothing in those days.)

2. reference my people, the American Indian & the hatefilled/racist/cruel damnyankees like Grant/Sheridan/Sherman: do you believe that might makes right???? (is anything you CAN do become OK thereby????)

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956 posted on 10/12/2003 10:31:56 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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