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To: nolu chan
I did not know Davis and Lee were Freepers. I suppose Lincoln, et al, are on DU.

Well, they aren't. But neither is Lincoln. You claim nobody was supporting slavery and then toss in a couple of Lincoln quotes. Given that it's only fair to point out that both Davis and Lee were supporters of slavery.

544 posted on 09/15/2003 2:22:33 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Marse Robert was an ABOLITIONIST. you KNOW better, N-S.

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581 posted on 09/15/2003 8:30:47 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Non-Sequitur
[nc] I did not know Davis and Lee were Freepers. I suppose Lincoln, et al, are on DU.

[Non-Seq] Well, they aren't. But neither is Lincoln. You claim nobody was supporting slavery and then toss in a couple of Lincoln quotes. Given that it's only fair to point out that both Davis and Lee were supporters of slavery.

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To: nolu chan

I don't know anyone arguing that slavery was right or just...

Try Jefferson Davis or Robert Lee.

"We recognize the negro as God and God's Book and God's Law in nature tells us to recognize him - our inferior, fitted expressly for servitude. Freedom only injures the slave. The innate stamp of inferiority is beyond the reach of change. You cannot transform the negro into anything one-tenth as useful or as good as what slavery enables him to be." -- Jefferson Davis, March 1861

"Considering the relation of master and slave, controlled by humane laws and influenced by Christianity and an enlightened public sentiment, as the best that can exist between the white and black races while intermingled as at present in this country, I would deprecate any sudden disturbance of that relation unless it be necessary to avert a greater calamity to both." -- Robert Lee, January 1865

498 posted on 09/14/2003 6:27 AM CDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: TheWriterInTexas; quidnunc

I don't know anyone arguing that slavery was right or just, but however wrong it was, it was clearly legal and protected by the Constitution. The Declaration of Independence was not law and many of those who signed it were slave owners.

Lincoln said, "in our greedy chase to make profit of the Negro, let us beware, lest we 'cancel and tear to pieces' even the white man's charter of freedom"
Lincoln, CW 2:276
Translation for the intellectually challenged:
The White Man's Charter of Freedom = The Declaration of Independence

THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION ON SLAVERY

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496 posted on 09/14/2003 5:40 AM CDT by nolu chan
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In other words, Lincoln was right and embracing a Conservative tradition (i.e., recognizing the true origin of rights).

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490 posted on 09/14/2003 3:01 AM CDT by TheWriterInTexas (Under Seige - MWCF)
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608 posted on 09/15/2003 11:18:39 AM PDT by nolu chan
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