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To: Paul C. Jesup
You must mean 'peace of the grave', because when Grant was finished with the South, he turn his attention to the West and committed GENOCIDE against the native americans.

I believe Grant was a moral president with very bad advisors and a zealot - Sheridan - who despised indians as much as rebs.

I believe the greatest hero of the war was Stonewall Jackson. Here was a thoroughly moral and Christian man (who taught Sunday School to slaves), who was defending his home against an INVADER, and who believed that God won all his battles (and I agree with him). Let us remember that Lincoln called up 75,000 troops for an invasion long before Ft. Sumter, and it was a reaction to this planned invasion that caused Lee to also stand for Virginia.

From all I have read (I am a yankee with southern sympathies), I believe the south had a Constitutional right to secede, and I believe the southern leadership was more moral than the northern leadership in many instances.

In short, I believe the war was a judgment of God on both sides. The north was an immoral and godless society in many ways, and the destruction of the south and Reconstruction proved it.

336 posted on 09/12/2003 11:40:09 AM PDT by exmarine
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To: exmarine
I believe Grant was a moral president with very bad advisors and a zealot - Sheridan - who despised indians as much as rebs.

Okay, but who appointed Sheridan?

Other than that, nice post.

By the way, the southeast and parts of the great plains are the most healthest (which doesn't say much) part of this country is the Southeast and parts of the Great Plains. The rest of the country seems to be coming apart at the seems because of the arrogance of government at all levels (local, state, federal).

And the irony is that the South forsaw this over a 130 years ago and wanted no part of it.

337 posted on 09/12/2003 11:46:58 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: exmarine
Let us remember that Lincoln called up 75,000 troops for an invasion long before Ft. Sumter, and it was a reaction to this planned invasion that caused Lee to also stand for Virginia.

The firing on Fort Sumter happened on April 12-13, 1861. Lincoln's call for 75,000 troops was issued April 15, 1875 (75,000). That is not to say that Lincoln didn't have things going on behind the scenes. The Times Picayune (New Orleans) reports the following in the April 11, 1861, edition:

Military Preparations at the North

The New York Herald, of the 6th inst., gives accounts of what is going on in this way, in anticipation of a coercive policy on the part of the Washington administration. It says that on the 5th inst., Gov. Curtin, of Pennsylvania, besides being closeted with Lincoln for an hour, had an interview with Secretary Cameron and Gen. Scott, and at 11 o'clock that same night had a private interview with one of Gen. Scott's confidential officers. There is no doubt, it adds, that Pennsylvania will be put upon a war footing immediately.

Massachusetts is said to have six thousand six hundred and seventy men, all equiped and ready to march at twelve hours notice. Among them, says the Herald, are two flying artillery batteries, almost as expert in drill as the best regulars, and several dragoon and cavalry corps, not surpassed in efficiency by any in the volunteer militia in the United States. The infantry troops are well drilled.

New York State, according to the same authority, is pledged to furnish ten thousand men at forty-eight hours notice, and other States in proportion.

I imagine all those pre-Sumter discussions led to the 75,000 figure.

366 posted on 09/12/2003 5:41:10 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: exmarine
WELCOME, copperhead.

copperheads are/were loved & cherished in the southland.

free dixie,sw

480 posted on 09/14/2003 12:08:47 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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