[GOPcapitalist]

Yeah, and it was also Lincoln's lust for force, his unwillingness to exhaust diplomatic alternatives, and his excessively secretive and somewhat paranoid handling of Fort Sumter that got us into that war to begin with.

[WhiskeyPapa]

Yeah, and it was also Lincoln's lust for force, his unwillingness to exhaust diplomatic alternatives...

There was no one to treat with. As President Lincoln said, no one man could give up the rebellion for another.

In law, the so-called CSA had no more validity than the "outhouse republic" in Texas a few years back. In fact, the outhouse republic maintained its territorial integrity longer than the so-called CSA did.

Walt