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To: speekinout; Jim Robinson; marsh2; steelie; ScottinSacto; dalereed; eldoradude; farmfriend
Well, speekinout, let me tell ya why that is...

First we had elected representation, then we got the ballot measure process, then we got political correctness and leftist media domination and finally, political consultants/handlers/PR "experts."

Then at the same time we got career politicians and then pensions for public officials along with citizens with apathy settin in, so we got term limits on the ballot, but they've found ways around that.

So then we git "citizen politicians" like Ross Perot, Jesse Ventura and now Arnold Schwarzenegger and a whole raft of citizens on the Recall ballot.

Now, to keep this short, politicians have become blander and blander so they don't upset anybody so they can vest their pensions, so they don't really DO anything, right? They don't dare and we get bores like Gray Davis on the left and yes, like Tom, on the right... blander than heck!!!

The people, meanwhile, sit on their asses and watch Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight and SPORTS, right? Then all of a sudden the electeds, who long ago delegated most all of their authority to bureaucrats who also hire consultants galore to cover their asses, get caught in tryin to buy too many votes with too many programs with a sudden drop in their "revenue stream" since all their "programs" are driving business into the dang ground.

Now, all this time, guys like Tom can't even get 10 second sound bites on the six o'clock news (which has become liberal entertainment instead of actual "news") and can only find enough conservative Repellicans out in the rural areas to listen to his warnings at the Republican Womens Luncheon where they're planning their next group trip to shop at Nordstrom's, right?

So... All of a sudden, when what Tom's been yelling at the top of his non-amplified (acoustic is all conservatives ever git) lungs suddenly starts happening... And somebody actually funds a Recall qualification effort and people who have to be paid start gathering signatures because all the volunteers are down in the city shopping at Nordstrom's instead...

All of a sudden, here come the Celibrity Opportunist who hasn't said much, to jump on this exciting new bandwagon and bump the slogging conservative off the stage because he supposedly has no chance to win because he hasn't had theatrical training which is danged important to get the attention of those watching Celebrity Justice, Entertainment Tonight, etc...

So then, we get what Minnesoda got. Another Jesse Ventura style "citizen politician" who has never actually had to get anything past the grinding process in the Crapitol, or implemented through the beligerent bureaucrazy that must deal with the civil service system and the government employees union who bich as a way of life!!!

By the time the "citizen politician" steps on enough toes to actually get anything done, the activists, lobbyists, unionist, consumerists, environmentalists, to say nothing of the opposing party and their media suck-ups will shine their spotlighting spin machine on your charismatic celibrity hero and make him miss the entertainment world so badly that he will only serve one term!

Then the whole thing will go immediately back to what it was before and the people that DID actually get involved will have won a very hollow victory, indeed! At least Tom's insider knowledge will give him a chance to spring into action and surgically carve away at the grotesque fat because he knows up close and personal, right where it's at!!!

He could even be better than Reagan, who at least studied the situation before jumping into the race with his charisma. Yes, Tom needs help with theatrics and needs to smile more and stop coming off as dour, or so intense, but yet, maybe that's what the people want right now is someone who's not going to be constantly playing to the press and the cameras and getting our governmental engine "leaned out" and hitting on 4 cylinders, even if there used to be 8!!!

127 posted on 09/05/2003 8:39:11 PM PDT by SierraWasp (You have to ask yourself... Would you hire anybody from CA's government to fix anything?(besides Tom)
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To: SierraWasp
"people who have to be paid start gathering signatures because all the volunteers are down in the city shopping at Nordstrom's instead"

Everything in your post is right on except the above. The volunteers would have gotten all the necessary sigantures since they did turn in over 600,000 even after slacking off because of Issa's funding of paid volunteers.

When Issa came in with the money he assured the July deadline would be easilly met. Without him the volunteers might have made the deadline but it would have been tough.

I'll be voting for Tom in the election no matter what the supporters here say and push for the empty suit liberal Arnold. He's already said that he wants to bring back business so the state will have more taxes to fund social programs. What we need is less taxes, less social programs, and 100,000+ fewer state employees.
132 posted on 09/05/2003 8:52:11 PM PDT by dalereed (,)
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To: SierraWasp
hitting on 4 cylinders, even if there used to be 8!!!

I drive a V8. A 460 to be exact. I like it. No smog check either.

149 posted on 09/05/2003 10:36:51 PM PDT by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: SierraWasp
So... All of a sudden, when what Tom's been yelling at the top of his non-amplified (acoustic is all conservatives ever git) lungs suddenly starts happening... And somebody actually funds a Recall qualification effort and people who have to be paid start gathering signatures because all the volunteers are down in the city shopping at Nordstrom's instead...

That's exactly the point. Tom didn't get anything done. He's not been able to do anything in his official position, and he didn't do anything to get the recall.
Arnold is right - what the state needs is leadership. Issa showed more leadership that Tom ever has. A leader needs some charisma and some drive. Tom doesn't have it, and he downplays the importance.

199 posted on 09/06/2003 2:37:59 PM PDT by speekinout
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