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To: kesg
Well now that we've agreed the 14th Amendment is a guarantor of individual rights, I would say the ball is now in your ballpark to name one Alabama citizen whose rights have been violated by a public display of the Ten Commandments.

Keep in mind that despite what Myron Thonpson has to say there is no right not to be offended in the Constitution nor have I ever met anyone who believs it is a natural right.

The Fifth Circuit banning football players in Texas from voluntary prayer is an abrifgement of their rights as human beings to free speech and their exercise of religion.. The Eleventh Circuit ordering the cessation of voluntary prayer at dinner time at VMI is a violation of their individual rights to free speech and their exercise of religion. The Ninth Circuit oredering public school children to cease and desist the recitation of the POA with the words "under God" included is a violation of their rights to free speech and the exercise of their religion. And finally, Myron Thompson and the Appeals Court ordering Alabaman's how to decorate their courtroom with what historical documents is a power never granted to the federal government, it is a power delegated to the states.

Putting a statue of the Virgin Mary in the courthouse would establish a religion. Installing a crucifix on the steeple would establish a religion. Hanging a Jewish Star on the courthourse would establish a relgion.

Banning the Ten Commandments which even Myron Thompson admits is the basis for American jurisprudence is also the establishment of religion. The New Age religion of secular humanism whose creed is moral relativism.

I don't know anybody who advocates a theocracy. I certainly don't but I'm sick of judicial activists, the ever widening wall and an American judicial sytem that favbors the secualists at the expense of those who believe in God.

You're going to see a push back.

52 posted on 09/06/2003 5:03:37 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
Keep in mind that despite what Myron Thonpson has to say there is no right not to be offended in the Constitution nor have I ever met anyone who believs it is a natural right.

I agree. The Constitutional prohibition is against the establishment of religion, not merely offending someone. In fact, the First Amendment guarantees the right of free speech even if such speech might offend someone.

Putting a statue of the Virgin Mary in the courthouse would establish a religion. Installing a crucifix on the steeple would establish a religion. Hanging a Jewish Star on the courthourse would establish a relgion.

I agree. How is installing a monument of the Ten Commandments any different from any of these examples?

Banning the Ten Commandments which even Myron Thompson admits is the basis for American jurisprudence is also the establishment of religion. The New Age religion of secular humanism whose creed is moral relativism.

I don't know what Myron Thompson admitted (or didn't admit) about the Ten Commandments, but I certainly don't admit it. I don't need some ancient religious tablet to tell me that, e.g., murder, theft, and perjury are morally wrong and should be against the law.

I don't know anybody who advocates a theocracy. I certainly don't but I'm sick of judicial activists, the ever widening wall and an American judicial sytem that favbors the secualists at the expense of those who believe in God.

I'm sick of anyone -- whether religious zealots on the right, political correctness nazis on the left, or whoever -- who wants to use the coercive power of government to tell me what I should think, what I should do, or how I should live. Who are you or anyone else to tell me how I should live my own life? It isn't yours to tell me how to live it. The Founding Fathers, too, understood that every man's life belonged to him and him alone. It doesn't belong to the State, and it doesn't belong to any church, either.

58 posted on 09/06/2003 10:18:52 AM PDT by kesg
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