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The real cost of switching to Linux - Is TCO really lower than Unix or Windows?
Info World ^ | 08.29.2003 | By Dave Margulius

Posted on 09/04/2003 7:18:50 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican

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To: Dutch Boy
With the proper setup, most of the tasks that people do in Windows can be just as easy to preform in Linux -- you just might need a more savvy admin to do the initial setup. Unfortunatley, this won't solve the problem of users still not "getting it" even when the instructions are idiot-proof.
21 posted on 09/04/2003 8:01:51 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Mash here - yes, it works ;)
22 posted on 09/04/2003 8:03:24 PM PDT by general_re (Today is a day for firm decisions! Or is it?)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Is it possible to find Zork on the internet? Awesome game!

Try this link.

Not sure where to get a "downloadable" version, though.
23 posted on 09/04/2003 8:03:28 PM PDT by Dimensio (Sometimes I doubt your committment to Sparkle Motion!)
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To: hugorand
Like an F16!
24 posted on 09/04/2003 8:04:30 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: general_re
COOL!!! THANKS!!!
25 posted on 09/04/2003 8:06:26 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Switching to the Mac with Mac OS X is much cheaper than either using Windows machines or Linux machines.
26 posted on 09/04/2003 8:06:40 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: Dimensio; general_re
Thank you!
27 posted on 09/04/2003 8:12:36 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; general_re; Dimensio
LOL!

I haven't played it for a while and one of my links is dead...
There are several different options, the one I use is something called "Z-Code" - http://www.csd.uwo.ca/Infocom/zork1.html

There are interpreters for LOTS of old and new OSes. Yes, Trash-80!

Try also;
http://zork.nl/
http://www.thezorklibrary.com/
http://www.tbzp.co.uk/index2.html
http://www.balmoralsoftware.com/rtz/rtz.htm
http://www.balmoralsoftware.com/games.htm#Z
28 posted on 09/04/2003 8:16:20 PM PDT by FormerlyAnotherLurker
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To: sasquatch
Do you miss Edlin?
29 posted on 09/04/2003 8:25:38 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; general_re; Dimensio
http://www.wurb.com/if/game/2
"This is the forbear of the Zork trilogy, written at MIT before Infocom was formed. The first game to feature a full-sentence parser, albeit a crude one by today's standards. Very derivative of Adventure, from the maze of twisty little passages to the orange smoke that accompanies ressurrection. Basically, a treasure hunt in a cave. Two mazes (counting the coal mine), a little randomized combat, and a nonsense puzzle or two. Much historical interest, however. Nearly everything in this game can be found in the Zork trilogy, although some crucial details are different. Available in various stages of its development; unlike Adventure, which used a very rigid database, this game was designed to be easy to modify, and got modified a lot."

Downloads in things as varied as Amiga, MSDOS, Fortran, C, Mac, though I don't see TRS80. Sorry.


Also:
http://www.angelfire.com/ut/henryshermitage/zork1.html
"Welcome to The Great Zork I Page! The page where you can even download ZorkI! "

Play Online: http://www.ifiction.org/games/play.phpz?cat=&game=2&mode=html
30 posted on 09/04/2003 8:26:22 PM PDT by FormerlyAnotherLurker (>Throw the sack at the troll.)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Win2k eliminates the need for Netware.

BWAAHHHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks, I needed something to cheer me up! lol

Are you sure that you want to go down this road?

Again, simply put, I'm a strong believer in using the right tool for the right job. And for file and print services, NetWare is superior in many respects to Win2K, especially if you don't have a dedicated IT staff to continually patch and reboot the servers. MS is finally getting things moving in the right direction with Win2003, as far as security goes, but Active Directory doesn't compate to eDirectory, as far as ease of management or scalability goes.

Mark

31 posted on 09/04/2003 8:26:43 PM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
The one thing that they don't mention in the article, but I feel will be a driver to push people to Linux is the exposure to viruses.

Linux is becoming more and more user friendly. I've been recommending to people to try Knoppix, which is a version of Linux that you can boot up on CD and operate without having installed it on your harddrive.

32 posted on 09/04/2003 8:30:45 PM PDT by Mean Daddy
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To: MarkL
Have you tried the windows-based NWAdmin utility?
33 posted on 09/04/2003 8:32:27 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
Thank you very much. I will enjoy trying it again, in the late weekend hours.
34 posted on 09/04/2003 8:40:28 PM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Life isn't fair. It's fairer than death, is all.")
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To: MarkL
The idea of your post is spot on, everything has its place I disagree with the specifics

If high levels of security aren't needed, SAMBA works just fine. You can actually have a samba share (or for that matter a Linux workstation authenticate against a windows domain. You can even have it *BE* a windows domain (and save mad software fees). Samba is just as if not more secure than a windows file server.

Linux is perfect for small shops because the need to dummy proof systems goes down (if you have 400 users you cant do that to your tech support). I tend to agree with the firewall go with hardware, not software, but if you are going to go with software BSD is the way to go.

35 posted on 09/04/2003 8:57:05 PM PDT by N3WBI3
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
?Backups have been a nagging problem,? says Duncan, who notes that the medical center had been using a hot backup agent for Oracle databases on AIX and NT as part of IBM?s Tivoli Storage Manager but that this agent was not yet available for Linux.

He should look into using a NetApp file server appliance. Use the best tool for the job, and this will save you headaches in the future.
36 posted on 09/04/2003 8:58:57 PM PDT by lelio
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Have you tried the windows-based NWAdmin utility?

Is this a trick question?

Mark

37 posted on 09/04/2003 9:00:29 PM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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To: MarkL
No, 2k server comes with it. No need for Novell.
38 posted on 09/04/2003 9:06:52 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
No, 2k server comes with it. No need for Novell.

Oh, Please, enlighten me...

With this one utility, we no longer need a reliable, secure OS for a server?

Mark

39 posted on 09/04/2003 9:10:43 PM PDT by MarkL (Get something every day from the four basic food groups: canned, frozen, fast and takeout)
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To: MarkL
Is this a trick question? :o)
40 posted on 09/04/2003 9:20:45 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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