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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
To be fair, la Raza doesn't exactly mean the same thing as "the Race", at least not as the word is used here in Texas. It can mean “race”, as in biological race, but it is more often used in a manner that is better rendered in English as “people”. “La Raza Latina”, for example, literally means “the Latino race”, but no one takes it that way, since there is no such thing as a Latino race; Latinos are a mixed breed like everyone else on Earth. Instead, la Raza Latina usually means something more like "the Latino people" or "the Latino community" than it does anything biological like race. There used to be a similar usage in English; Winston Churchill often spoke of “the English race”, which of course makes no sense in terms of biology but instead refers to those who are organically part of the culture and community of England.

That being said: the philosophy behind groups like MeCHA most definitely does teach that a biologically-Latin race exists and that its members are examples of a sort of mestizo master race destined to rule all of the Americas. (Google for la raza cosmica and see what turns up.) Even though most Latinos are every bit as much European in ancestry as the average "white" American is, these clowns prefer to think of themselves as -- get this -- the descendents of the bloodthirsty Aztecs and Mexicas. Whatever they might pretend that they mean by la Raza, it doesn't include us bolillos (“whitebreads”). For everyone outside their self-defined race, they promise nothing but trouble.

30 posted on 09/04/2003 12:21:16 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
There used to be a similar usage in English; Winston Churchill often spoke of “the English race”, which of course makes no sense in terms of biology but instead refers to those who are organically part of the culture and community of England.

Oh. You mean like "The Jewish Race". That is the same usage. Sounds pretty fascist to me.

34 posted on 09/04/2003 12:37:14 PM PDT by NathanR (California Si! Aztlan NO!)
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To: B-Chan
Even though most Latinos are every bit as much European in ancestry as the average "white" American is, these clowns prefer to think of themselves as -- get this -- the descendents of the bloodthirsty Aztecs and Mexicas.

Exactly. That's the point I was trying to make in my earlier post. Many of these clowns have no Indian or Mestizo blood. Another example: Rep. Menendez of New Jersey.

35 posted on 09/04/2003 12:39:07 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: B-Chan
I am a white hispanic, proud American before anything else. These Mecha and La RAza people are 100% racist; full of envy, hate, pride; they have ties with marxist groups.

Granted, some people get in just for the help they get; but they are brain washed all the time.

The majority of mexicans see California, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and even parts of Colorado as theirs.

When I worked for IBM, I used to talk to a mexican who picked up the trash in our cubes. One time he was telling me about a great vacation he had enjoyed in mexico a few months back, and he mentioned that he stayed at his sister's house. When I asked him the name of the city where his sister lives, he said Houston; I said, but Houston is in Texas; that is not in mexico. To which he replied: No, no; Texas is Mexico; Texas belongs to Mexico. Then he turnes and walked away.

37 posted on 09/04/2003 12:40:06 PM PDT by gedeon3
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