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Bar stirs up some southern discomfort
redandblack ^ | September 04, 2003 | MATTHEW HUNT

Posted on 09/04/2003 5:22:06 AM PDT by stainlessbanner

 

Students are at odds over the arrival of downtown Athens' newest resident: General Beauregard.

But it's not just that the bar, located at 164 E. Clayton St., is named after the Civil War general, it's the Old South interior design that's causing rebellion.

Three flags hang over the bar, reflected in giant mirrors along the opposite wall: The Confederate First National Flag ("the stars and bars"), the Virginia Cavalry Jack ("the rebel flag") and the Bonnie Blue Flag, designed by Gen. Stonewall Jackson to represent the unified states.

It's a risky theme in a University community where minority enrollment is a constant challenge and in a state that recently dealt with Gov. Sonny Perdue's efforts to change the state flag.

Still, Daniel Simmons, owner of General Beauregard's, said, "It felt right."

"Athens is such a great Southern town," he said. "We're just trying to bring it back to life."

Gardner Dominick, co-owner of the bar, said they didn't give the bar's theme much thought and were just trying to provide an atmosphere Athens hadn't seen before.

And they succeeded.

The bar is half antebellum home and half Southern ballroom. It features rocking chairs, framed Cotton Planters Loan Association currency, a glittering chandelier and a painted statue of Jack Daniels that looks similar to General Beauregard himself.

The bar prefers Hank Williams Jr. to 50 Cent, and even has a signature drink: Dixieland Tea, which is Kentucky bourbon and sweet tea in a mason jar.

"I'm definitely surprised by (the theme)," said Melvin Hines, a black sophomore from Albany. "I thought that after all this time things would have changed. People don't see it actually offends other people."

Hines also said a bar like General Beauregard's does more to separate the University, and in the long run, the state as a whole.

However, separation isn't on the owner's agenda.

"We've heard nothing but positive feedback," Simmons said. "We're not trying to be racist."

Dominick added that it's not about racism, it's about giving Athens something new.

"(The bar) is really laid back and awesome," said Becca Taubel, a white sophomore from Gainesville. "The music is different, too ... you don't have to wear earplugs when you walk in the door."

And Taubel said she didn't even notice the flags.

"I believe in Georgia, especially, there's not too much that separates races other than the rebel flag ... and knowing it's here really just deepens the wound," Hines said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: bar; confederate; dixie; southern
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To: SoothingDave
The whole notion makes me shudder....
21 posted on 09/04/2003 5:47:32 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
The whole notion makes me shudder....

Sorry. Believe me, when I mix it, it's less sweet than Bourbon and Coke, which I'm sure you also abhor.

SD

22 posted on 09/04/2003 5:50:44 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Bourbon and sweet tea is heresy!

Now, Jack Daniels and tea is a waste of good tea, but the combination of Woodford Reserve and tea should be punishable by flogging.

23 posted on 09/04/2003 5:51:05 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: SoothingDave
Bourbon is best on the rocks. Occasionally, you can use a lesser grade for an old fashioned - and those are kinda tasty around Christmas.
24 posted on 09/04/2003 5:56:14 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: stainlessbanner
the Bonnie Blue Flag, designed by Gen. Stonewall Jackson to represent the unified states.

???

Where'd they come up with this? The BBF predated the "Stonewalling" of Jackson by a considerable margin and stood for the sovereignty of individual States, aka states rights, IIRC.

25 posted on 09/04/2003 6:00:09 AM PDT by LTCJ (Ramblin' Wreck BUMP)
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To: LTCJ
Check this out, LTCJ - I just posted another thread on the Bonnie Blue

Enjoy!

26 posted on 09/04/2003 6:03:51 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: LTCJ
51-7.
27 posted on 09/04/2003 6:05:21 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (You didn't get laid off... you didn't get outsourced or offshored... you got fired. Get over it.)
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To: stainlessbanner
When I was at UGA in the early 90's, there was a big "hate crime" problem with someone painting racial and sexual-orientation slurs in the dorms. Them the police caught a gay black RA setting fire to his own "Gay Pride" bullitin board. He was causing all of the divisiveness. Nobody reads the red & black except to see who got arrested the prior weekend anyway
28 posted on 09/04/2003 6:08:58 AM PDT by ruppertdog
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To: stainlessbanner
A mind is a terrible thing.
29 posted on 09/04/2003 6:11:51 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Of course I like it here. I just may not like you.)
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To: stainlessbanner
I see nothing wrong with an owner of a private bar outfitting it the way he wants. If some people are overly sensitive about the decor they have the freedom to patronize another establishment.

The overly sensitive flag-baiters see race in every symbol of the Confederacy, especially flags, and are the real racists here. I wish the bar owners well, and hope they learn that those who "suggest" a change in decor are nothing more than racist Confederate haters with an inadequacy complex.
30 posted on 09/04/2003 6:12:51 AM PDT by Noachian (Legislation Without Representation Is Tyranny)
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To: Constitution Day
Nothing can touch my lemon flavored home brew!
31 posted on 09/04/2003 6:13:45 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Booker's, Baker's, or Basil Hayden's? (I prefer Booker's)
32 posted on 09/04/2003 6:15:55 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: bullseye1911
Bookers.
33 posted on 09/04/2003 6:16:33 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: ruppertdog
Them the police caught a gay black RA setting fire to his own "Gay Pride" bullitin board.

I remember that. Hilarious. And the Red and Black had written about 50 front-page articles on the story as well before they guy was busted.

Nobody reads the red & black except to see who got arrested the prior weekend anyway

Haha. That was always my favorite part as well.

34 posted on 09/04/2003 6:17:10 AM PDT by Texas_Dawg (You didn't get laid off... you didn't get outsourced or offshored... you got fired. Get over it.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
10-4!
35 posted on 09/04/2003 6:17:52 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: stainlessbanner
Sounds like the perfect place to go after work this Friday. I'm on campus and only 2 blocks away.
36 posted on 09/04/2003 6:18:35 AM PDT by CFW
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To: Phantom Lord
Nothing can touch my lemon flavored home brew!

You've got that right. That stuff is AWESOME!

37 posted on 09/04/2003 6:19:28 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Only because of anonymity can I admit Wild Turkey Grand Reserve is pretty tasty, for the price. Better than Evan Williams. Regards.........
38 posted on 09/04/2003 6:21:35 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: Constitution Day
My brother in law the morning after trying it for the first time...

"I feel like I got hit by a truck."

I tried to warn him, but he kept doing shots of it.

39 posted on 09/04/2003 6:25:36 AM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: bullseye1911
"(I prefer Booker's)"

You and me both, brother! Have you ever tried Sleepy Hollow?

P.S...M1911A1 is the only way to go.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

40 posted on 09/04/2003 6:32:31 AM PDT by wku man
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